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re: CNN: poem on Statue of Liberty is more important than federal law
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:58 am to JPinLondon
Posted on 8/14/19 at 10:58 am to JPinLondon
The text of the poem is self-explanatory. Just read it.
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Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:00 am to xiv
quote:I have read it, and I think it is quite lovely. The sentiment is moving, there is no doubt about it.
The text of the poem is self-explanatory. Just read it.
Back to policy, though...
xiv: "With the poem in mind, it is better for the taxpayers of the United States to favor allowing large numbers of immigrants who exhibit inability to be self-sufficient into the country because _________"
We're listening....
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:01 am to xiv
quote:
We should make the law like the poem.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:06 am to JPinLondon
quote:Nah, you’re melting.
We're listening....
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:09 am to xiv
quote:
Nah, you’re melting.
Its so, so rare, to see you.. when presented with a polite, articulate counterpoint... respond with anything other than troll-ish dribble.
If you have a point, make it. It would show some intellect.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:11 am to AggieHank86
Will you fricking do some work for your clients or do you just do wills for family members?
JFC
I hope you aren't billing while trying to one up strangers on the internet. That's called stealing.
JFC
I hope you aren't billing while trying to one up strangers on the internet. That's called stealing.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 11:14 am
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:11 am to JPinLondon
Already made my point. It rustled your jimmies. That requires no further action on my part. They’re your jimmies, not mine.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:12 am to JPinLondon
Why engage the troll?
You get the same result every time.
You get the same result every time.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:14 am to xiv
quote:
We should make the law like the poem.
Fine. But until then we should enforce the law currently on the books.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:14 am to xiv
quote:
Already made my point. It rustled your jimmies.
Delivering an emotional statement not based in reality is NOT making a point.
You said that the law should mimic the poem. That is a statement devoid of rationale.
We'd like to know why?? Show us those brain cells can actually articulate a position.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:16 am to ljhog
quote:Not gonna happen. It’s because the law doesn’t work and isn’t good.
Fine. But until then we should enforce the law currently on the books.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:17 am to xiv
1. The reason for the Frogs’ gift of Lady Liberty was not related to immigration, but rather as a monument to and symbol of democracy.
2. The connotations of symbols change with time. When Lady Liberty was erected, NYC was about 30% foreign-born and they came to associate her with their own experiences.
3. This changing symbolism is reflected in the poem, which was penned even before the statue was erected.
4. Oddly enough, it was not long after the statue was erected that the US started imposing ever-stricter limitations on immigration.
5. By the time the plaque was added, NYC was 40% foreign-born, but public sympathy in the country was ready shifting toward greater limits on immigration.
2. The connotations of symbols change with time. When Lady Liberty was erected, NYC was about 30% foreign-born and they came to associate her with their own experiences.
3. This changing symbolism is reflected in the poem, which was penned even before the statue was erected.
4. Oddly enough, it was not long after the statue was erected that the US started imposing ever-stricter limitations on immigration.
5. By the time the plaque was added, NYC was 40% foreign-born, but public sympathy in the country was ready shifting toward greater limits on immigration.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:17 am to xiv
quote:
Nah, you’re melting.
Wow. There's a surprise. The king (or queen, don't want to assume gender) of melts accusing someone else of melting.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 11:18 am
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:20 am to AggieHank86
quote:Is this my cue to tell you that you made some good points one time but now you ruined it by saying Frogs?
Frogs
ETA: Unrelated to you... the next few posts show why I was right not to engage in any in-depth debate with the people posting them.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 11:28 am
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:21 am to roadGator
quote:
Why engage the troll?
You get the same result every time.
Melt.
I own you.
Double melt.
Biggest melt of all time.
I figured that schtick out in two days; I have no idea why anybody even tries.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:22 am to SSpaniel
quote:
The king..
Point of Personal Privelage.. do not use GENDERED lang….
oh wait, you fixed it. I'll go back to wiping my snot on my Che Guevara shirtsleeve
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:24 am to JPinLondon
quote:
do not use GENDERED lang….
oh wait, you fixed it.
Yeah, I realized my error. I was briefly overcome with guilt.
Posted on 8/14/19 at 11:27 am to AggieHank86
quote:
So, they had to have about $450.00
I could buy a pretty sweet used car in the early 70's for that amount. Just think what i could buy in 1880.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 11:29 am
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:19 pm to xiv
quote:
It’s because the law doesn’t work and isn’t good.
Too bad. It’s the law and will always be the law, no matter how much you wish it not to be.
It’s you. You keep caring about an inscription on a statue and the rest of us will care about the law.
Melt on.
This post was edited on 8/14/19 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 8/14/19 at 1:21 pm to xiv
quote:
The poem is better than the law. We should make the law like the poem.
are we also going to return to a society without a welfare state, like when the poem was written?
if not, this argument is silly
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