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re: CNN confirms information from Dossier was included in FISA Warrant

Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:12 am to
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
Member since Feb 2007
34909 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:12 am to
[quote]quote:I am guessing you think its easy to fire federal employees, especially ones that were partial to a previous administrstion. Naïvete or ignorance? Well Trump pledged to drain the swamp... Naïvete or ignorance?[/quote]

Both. Per your above Posts, it's easy to see how Deep State Operatives can hide behind a faux-honesty re their BELIEF that Trump was colluding with Russia/Putin...and become a part of a surveillance scenario that was first and essentially based on a FALSE premise, concocted by the OPPOSITION Campaign (Hillary/DOJ Operatives).

Like the Poster said about Lawyers..."it all depends on what the meaning of the word 'is'...is"...become true. And that kind of *Justice* is what pisses off the "naïve and ignorant" Hinterland.

Dinesh D'Souza is thrown in jail, Flynn too...and Hillary gets $150 from Putin...and don't even have to answer under Oath administered by the Honest Bob Meuller/Comey FBI.

This is why bloody revolutions are many times the mechanism by which HONESTY is brought back into the public political dynamic.

Oh well. Always count on Mother Nature.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19067 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:13 am to
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Officials familiar with the process say even if the application to monitor Page included information from the dossier, it would only be after the FBI had corroborated the information through its own investigation.

Take the FBI at its word. Yeah, right! This "Russia" crap is the second attempted coup in U.S. history. All involved should be swinging from the hangman's noose.
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
20893 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:15 am to
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Well Trump pledged to drain the swamp...


Trumps a politician. He will say anything to get elected, lest he actually fire those in the FBI that are causing trouble, and we hear from you about how evil he is for breaking the federal employee unions.
Posted by lanticguy
AK
Member since Nov 2014
403 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:21 am to
Don't know if I missed it in the news, but what ever happened to Debbie's laptop the D.C. Police confiscated for evidence?
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
64341 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:33 am to
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Trumps a politician. He will say anything to get elected,


When he ran and said whatever he said he was not a politician.

Now that he got elected he is a politician.

JMO
Posted by TigerMyth36
River Ridge
Member since Nov 2005
39731 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 10:38 am to
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This is the part everyone will ignore.
Show the corroborated evidence. To date there has been none. Zero. Zilch. Nada.

All I have seen from the FBI is people clearly using their position to influence an election. "Insurance Policy"

There is more evidence that the last administration tried to influence the election than the Russians.

Opposition dossier was used by the FBI to wiretap the Trump campaign and then even though no wrongdoing was found, the last administration unmasked the people tapped to smear the campaign.

If you were even remotely honest, you would admit this is troubling and you wouldn't want to see the government engaged in this activity.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62436 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 11:15 am to
Left won’t believe this, it’s from Fake News..
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:01 pm to
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They used a real dossier that was corroborated by other independent sources that the FBI deemed reliable
it's like you don't know that the dossier has been proven to be false and that the "fbi" has been proven to be biased on these very matters. so, not only are these developments VERY troubling, you don't seem to care that they are happening. you are arguing with people who are disturbed by the implications which makes you look like an awful person
Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:05 pm to
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it's like you don't know that the dossier has been proven to be false
It's like you don't even know that your absolute proclamation is absurd, and that several parts of the dossier have been corroborated
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
140422 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:08 pm to
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several parts of the dossier have been corroborated


How many "parts" are there and how many of those have been corroborated?

Of those, how many were a "big deal"?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
73596 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:11 pm to
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and that several parts of the dossier have been corroborated


Yeah that the attorney that was in Prague was really at the hospital in the US watching his wife give birth

And Page had a cup of coffee at the Moscow airport. Totally worth tapping trumps wires. We trust you
This post was edited on 1/11/18 at 12:12 pm
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:15 pm to
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...it would only be after the FBI had corroborated the information through its own investigation.
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...the FBI...
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...corroborated the information...
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...through its own investigation.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:25 pm to
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It's like you don't even know that your absolute proclamation is absurd
prove me wrong. prove that the fbi/doj has NOT been corrupt in this matter. you can't because the incriminating messages have been made available.

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that several parts of the dossier have been corroborated
parts that have nothing to do with anything (similar to the manafort indictments). the relevant parts are stupid, uncorroborated and proven false. your intransigence on the matter suggests you have an emotional problem.
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
28347 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:29 pm to
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Well, some other corroborating evidence would be that we went to Russia while on the campaign and talked to Russians known by US Intel to be Russian govt operatives... That's very close to what is alleged in the dossier related to Page.

Oh I see their angle now.

They're trying to relate a factual aspect from the dossier re: Page that was used for Page's FISA warrant to imply that larger aspects of the dossier info, for example related to Trump, are also true and corroborated.

fricking fake news liars.
Posted by bfniii
Member since Nov 2005
17840 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:33 pm to
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JuiceTerry
i also noticed that you passed right over all of the incredible circumstances surrounding how the dossier was originated and who paid for it. but don't let any of that get in the way of your schtick. please continue betaing
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62436 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:38 pm to
Biggest Political crime in history
Posted by ninthward
Boston, MA
Member since May 2007
20416 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:45 pm to
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CNN confirms. Ok.
So you selectively choose which story CNN puts out as truth based on your agenda. If that is not a clear indicator of bias I am not sure what one is.
Posted by tigerinDC09
Washington, DC
Member since Nov 2011
4741 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:56 pm to
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They're trying to relate a factual aspect from the dossier re: Page that was used for Page's FISA warrant to imply that larger aspects of the dossier info, for example related to Trump, are also true and corroborated.


Steele's sources provided reliable information re:Carter Page that wasn't available via other public sources. It has now been confirmed. Page originally denied any contact, but now says he may have "spoken briefly" with them.

This bolsters the reliability Steele's sources does it not?
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 12:59 pm to
So the state can use made up bullshite to go after political opponents?

Awesome!

Posted by JuiceTerry
Roond the Scheme
Member since Apr 2013
40868 posts
Posted on 1/11/18 at 1:01 pm to
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i also noticed that you passed right over all of the incredible circumstances surrounding how the dossier was originated
I didn't pass over anything I just said that your absolute statement was dumb
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