re: CNN: Trump cancels pay raises for federal employees

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really sounds like you think this means that revenues weren't lost due to the tax cuts, or maybe even that tax revenues that were hit by the tax cuts are higher than they were for the last tax year at the old rate/base. is that the case with you?

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Oh goodie. Got one to bite. I would love to have a tax policy/tax code discussion with you. My answer above is yes, the tax cuts did not negatively impact revenues in the short term and it remains to be seen in the long term (but likely revenues will not be materially affected).

What are your thoughts on it?

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what field are you in?

Considering the way the economy is roaring no way would I stay with a 0 raise and that high on a eval. I’d be at a rival firm in a heart beat.

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there were bonuses that kicked in because of how we are doing and other incentives that were much higher than a raise so the company decided to low-ball the raises.

personally i'd rather the year over year gain, but i'm not complaining.

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There were several years Obama didn’t give raises (or bonuses) to federal workers.

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Mostly in his first years when federal tax receipts were abysmal.

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I appreciate your concern here. Feel free to give a few extra thousand to the fed this year when you do your taxes.. no one is stopping you.

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Assinine non-response to what I posted.

Are you too ignorant to make a reasoned response?

Yikes. That’s a pretty narrow way to look at revenues. You think those two taxes equaling less than 900 billion probe anything about a 3.5 plus trillion total revenue. Good lord. You thought you had a gotcha, didn’t you.

The proposed regs for 199A alone just came out. That is just one section that will drasticallly change things. Let’s talk about that. In your opinion, how do you think the proposed regs will alter what the previous understanding of 199 would be?

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Why don't you at least try to address the facts he posted?

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You moron. You don’t know what you don’t know. My question about 199 is directly related to corporate taxes.....one of the numbers he cited. What you call a dodge was a direct response.

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Yikes. That’s a pretty narrow way to look at revenues.

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What a copout of an answer. That's what the bill hit- corp and personal income. And for the data we have, the impact is pretty clear. Do you have some alternate explanation? Or some evidence that the bill has increased revenues at least of this magnitude elsewhere, as you try to suggest?

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Good lord. You thought you had a gotcha, didn’t you.

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No. I think I have a substantive point based on a sound reading of the available evidence.

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In your opinion, how do you think the proposed regs will alter what the previous understanding of 199 would be?

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You've asked this before. You tell me how whatever definition in its final form supports anything you've said here.

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There were several years Obama didn’t give raises (or bonuses) to federal workers.

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What could a government worker possibly be doing to warrant a bonus? They don't produce anything. Their income is generated by taxes and fees (which are mostly bullshite).

If their department runs a "profit" it should be returned to the tax payers or put toward something useful. Under no circumstances should a govt employee get a bonus.

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If you have a case to make on how this definition will somehow result in an offset anywhere near the magnitude of the drop we've seen so far, go ahead and spit it out.

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Businesses that thought that many of their ancillary expenses may be illegible for the 20 percent deduction found out through the proposed regs that is not the case. They also limited the QBI interpretations. Among many other things. You seem somewhat knowledgeable on the subject. These proposed regs have been the hot topic in the tax law world for a month or so. Surprised it wasn’t self evident to you.

I don't mind a pay freeze and I certainly don’t mind a merit based pay system for feds like myself. I voted Trump and I fully respect his decisions to manage the budget. I agree that many federal employees aren't worth the paper their checks are printed on, but it is disheartening to see the level of bashing in here without any consideration for the important work that some of us do. I cannot speak specifics, but our small group works very closely with the military and intelligence community to develop technologies that pay cost saving dividends to the DoD many 100s of times our salaries, and that does not include the value of the lives we’ve saved. I personally know and have worked with countless feds that are highly skilled and hard working professionals who could be taking a much larger paycheck in private industry, but choose to stay on because they bleed RW&B and they believe in the mission.

Anyway, enough said. I would just respectfully ask to keep these good people in mind before shitting over all of us as a collective