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Climate Scientists Say We Should Embrace Higher CO2 Levels

Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:23 pm
Posted by Swazla
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:23 pm
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“The whole thing is a total scam,” Mr. Moore said. “There is actually no scientific evidence that CO2 is responsible for climate change over the eons.”
Patrick Moore, chairman and chief scientist of Ecosense Environmental and co-founder of the environmental organization Greenpeace.

He said the burning of fossil fuels—which emits CO2—is a good thing for plant life.

“We are replenishing the atmosphere with CO2 up to a level that is much more conducive to life and growth of plants, in particular.”

“CO2 has been unfairly demonized because it is actually plant food in its atmospheric form, and it is the consequence of generating carbon-based energy, which unquestionably improves lives around the world,” he said.

He calls CO2 the “currency of life.”

“In past epochs, there were many times more CO2 levels in the atmosphere than today.”

Mr. Moore said that current CO2 concentrations are “historically low.”

“Going back 150 million years, CO2 was somewhere between 2,000 and 2,500 parts per million (ppm),” he said.

Generally, atmospheric CO2 is low (around 180 ppm) during glacial periods and higher during interglacials, according to the U.N. Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC).

Mr. Moore said that that’s a good thing and that the push for net-zero CO2 is a disastrous policy. Anything under 150 ppm is “starvation level” for most plant species.

“CO2 is only now at 0.042 percent of the atmosphere. And the fact of the matter is plants would prefer between 1,500 and 2,000 ppm for optimum growth,” Mr. Moore said.

“Commercial greenhouse growers worldwide purposefully increase the CO2 level in their greenhouses to between 800 and 1,200 ppm. Really, it’s about 2,000 where you’re at the optimum level for trees and plants, in general.”
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:26 pm to
so instead of .03 of the atmosphere what are we looking at?
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“Going back 150 million years, CO2 was somewhere between 2,000 and 2,500 parts per million (ppm),” he said.

This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 6:28 pm
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:29 pm to
quote:

“Commercial greenhouse growers worldwide purposefully increase the CO2 level in their greenhouses to between 800 and 1,200 ppm. Really, it’s about 2,000 where you’re at the optimum level for trees and plants, in general.”



so whats the fuss then?
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
62420 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:29 pm to
It’s always been a scam, there’s just not enough people around to understand, they used this scam in the reverse in the 70’s. They can Jedi mind-trick these young people…..but the old people lived the cooling scam, when they told us the new Ice Age was coming, but there wasn’t much profit back then in the scam….
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64655 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:30 pm to
People have been lazy and conditioned to believe the tv.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15052 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:30 pm to
I just can't understand why Europeans and Icelanders in particular want to freeze their asses off for eight months out of the year. You'd think a little warming would be good.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
11977 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:44 pm to
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You'd think a little warming would be good.



They can believe it, but they have no more power than you and me.
Ever tried to change the minds of educated common sensical people who watch CNN, ABC, MSNBC?
Posted by griswold
Member since Oct 2009
4043 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 6:50 pm to
Been saying this for 40 years
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
10290 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:22 pm to
He’s actually correct as plants having above sufficient supplies of CO2 helps produce additional oxygen that can support more mouth breathers, ribeyes suppliers as well vegan food. Those libtards can complain about something else
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
49634 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:32 pm to
what shall we do?
Posted by Von
Wichita Falls, TX
Member since Feb 2019
1878 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 7:53 pm to
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“The whole thing is a total scam,”

Always has been. Truly, the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity. So far.
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:01 pm to
I wonder what the Dinosaurs blamed climate change on 250 million years ago when atmospheric CO2 has been estimated at between 4k-7k ppm.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29745 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:06 pm to
CO2 has been rising and life for humans has never been better.

What’s the problem exactly?
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
Here
Member since Jan 2011
66763 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:12 pm to
Global greening is a problem damnit!!!
Posted by Hooligan's Ghost
Member since Jul 2013
5188 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:19 pm to
Al Gore may have just had a conniption. he's probably having convulsions or blood vessels are popping in his face

he's "playing on our fears"
Posted by MileHighDraw
Member since May 2018
1871 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:22 pm to
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CO2 has been rising and life for humans has never been better.


It’s actually been on a heavy decline over the past millions of years.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
30612 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:24 pm to
They are just washing us out. Eventually they plan to have enough idiots on their side.
Posted by DoubleDown
New Orleans, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2008
12869 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:28 pm to
I have a feeling that guy will wind up “committing suicide”.
Posted by Robin Masters
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2010
29745 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:42 pm to
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t’s actually been on a heavy decline over the past millions of years.


You’d never know it listening to the sky screamers.
Posted by SirWinston
PNW
Member since Jul 2014
81625 posts
Posted on 1/2/24 at 8:47 pm to
I'm not an astronomer or anything but doesn't the sun have flares every couple thousand years?

Wouldn't just one solar hiccup in the direction of earth do more to raise the temp / literally scorch the earth than anything humans and animals combined have ever done?

This post was edited on 1/2/24 at 8:47 pm
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