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re: Clarification about South African Land Distribution

Posted on 8/24/18 at 9:44 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 9:44 pm to
I really don't care what happens to SA. It's not our business
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 9:44 pm to
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We dont mind that they are good at farming.
Who is "we"?
Posted by ynlvr
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 9:57 pm to
My only regret is I skipped the tour of wine country 15 years ago with my group of wine travelers. They had a grand time. Doesn’t sound like the same experience is likely now. Too bad. WPP
Posted by Tiger4Liberty
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/24/18 at 10:08 pm to
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Do some reading about the Boer Wars. Or the previous British-Zulu War. It wasn't the Dutch per se that did the initial conquest.


I know a little about this and apparently you think you do...but you don't.

The Cape was unoccupied when the first white settlers arrived. It was asked of you before, but you skirted the question. Why do any white farmers of Boer descent owe any blacks or coloreds any land in the majority of South Africa?
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:33 am to
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The Cape was unoccupied when the first white settlers arrived. It was asked of you before, but you skirted the question. Why do any white farmers of Boer descent owe any blacks or coloreds any land in the majority of South Africa?


I am aware of that. And I've my made point clear, but I'll be more direct regarding farms.

From a purely legal perspective, I recognize that white farmers aren't obligated to hand over land ownership.

However, a political observation of the area would notice that since black natives are the majority voting population, then they technically have the power to ultimately create laws that could inflate taxation. They can also filibuster any proposals the minority makes.

I'm not saying right. It's a lawful evil that could potentially occur against whites.

But as I said earlier, the ANC dont have many options. You could keep the white minority (which is MY PERSONAL PREFERENCE) but then only a few results will happen.

1. The ANC will be voted out. This may be for the best. But it'll mainly be because they failed to fix the problem.

2. Another faction will arise. But what will they do to fix the issues if whites wont cooperate. You could become territory of another nation in exchange for labor or whatever resources you have left. Or you could look for a trading partner.

The DA faction has some ideas regarding education, but the problem here is that white settlers dominated all the educational facilities and resources.

3. You could do what most of you want, restore Apartheid. Its absolutely disgusting.

This post was edited on 8/25/18 at 12:37 am
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:40 am to
So should the American government force farmers to give their land back to the Indians?
Posted by TheGooner
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:43 am to
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Do some reading about the Boer Wars. Or the previous British-Zulu War. It wasn't the Dutch per se that did the initial conquest.


You need to read some more. Boer is the Dutch word for farmer. The first white settlers were from the Dutch East Indies Company. 200 years before the Boer war.

Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:44 am to
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Who is "we"?


All the people who are standing up for the Black natives who are caught in the crossfire of this mess.

All you hear about are the murders (funny how the media works huh) but not about the blacks who are poor from Apartheid era and have no options because of the ANC land debacle.

It's like nobody can find a middle ground. If you want Apartheid back so badly then fine.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:47 am to
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So should the American government force farmers to give their land back to the Indians?





No. But they should at least respect the few sovereign Native lands that are left.

But an oil pipeline is more important apparently.
Posted by Loungefly85
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2016
7930 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 12:47 am to
Here’s the very simple reality.

The whites in SA treated the blacks like shite back in the day and did very atrocious things as far as land grabs back the.

The world has evolved and changed for the better.

Now they are doing the same shite but opposite. It’s not, and should be not acceptable. Period.

I’d call this out if it was like the old days as wrong and unacceptable.
Posted by starsandstripes
Georgia
Member since Nov 2017
11897 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:03 am to
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volod


The world according to volod: "It's OK if black people do it"
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133679 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:04 am to
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All the people who are standing up for the Black natives who are caught in the crossfire of this mess.
That's pitiful. The whites are the natives. They've occupied those lands longer than the blacks have.

And here I thought you wanted a serious debate about the land theft about to take place in S Africa. Silly me.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:10 am to
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They gave the blacks a chance to be successful and they failed miserably. They'll fail again.


Wow. So when you guys say that liberals have failed the black community what you really mean is that the black community will continue to fail either way.
Posted by ZOU
STL
Member since Oct 2014
1841 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:12 am to
No, you’re just a beta male and beta males don’t have winning mentalities. There’s no way minorities will succeed with the beta male cuck leadership of liberals.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:15 am to
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No, you’re just a beta male and beta males don’t have winning mentalities. There’s no way minorities will succeed with the beta male cuck leadership of liberals.


Lol. I'm sure that's what he meant.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133679 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 1:18 am to
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what you really mean is that the black community will continue to fail either way.
The majority of blacks who believe only government can help them succeed economically will continue to fail economically. That goes for the government-dependent whites, too.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
80255 posts
Posted on 8/25/18 at 5:27 am to
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didn’t train them for free on how to grow food.


I know right??

If you have no clue about farming, why the hell are you buying a farm?
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