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re: Claim - McDaniels found enough invalidated votes to overturn Cochran win
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:03 pm to Lsut81
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:03 pm to Lsut81
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Im assuming that registered Dems aren't allowed to vote in Republican primaries?
Miss doesn't register by party. Dems can vote in a GOP primary or runoff as long as they didn't vote in the Dem primary (or runoff) and vice versa.
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Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:04 pm to teke184
It will be an uphill battle for McDaniel. Think I'll sit out the November election.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:05 pm to teke184
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If the rolls are as obvious about such double-votes as the image above, you'd think it would be easy to find a ton of these if you had the time.
Agreed. Honestly, I'm fond of saying that mid-terms are the Olympics for bluehairs (mostly old, conservative, white Americans). This wasn't even the general election of the mid-term. What percentage of blacks do we honestly believe voted in the democratic primary in Mississippi.
Over/under 20%?
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 5:06 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:06 pm to Lsut81
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Can someone tell me what makes the votes invalid?
Im assuming that registered Dems aren't allowed to vote in Republican primaries?
Regardless as to registration, you can vote in the primary of the opposing party.
It is my understanding there are two elements to this;
- You cannot vote in the primary of both parties (e.g. cannot vote in the Democratic primary and the Republican primary - apparently this was widespread).
- You cannot vote in a runoff if you did not vote in the preceding primary (not as sure about this).
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:06 pm to Jay Quest
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It will be an uphill battle for McDaniel. Think I'll sit out the November election.
Yes, it will be an uphill battle.
However, I think that just bringing national attention to how much fraud was perpetrated in order for Cochran to win is worth it right there because it will get people's attention.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:07 pm to Wolfhound45
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- You cannot vote in a runoff if you did not vote in the preceding primary (not as sure about this).
You can't vote in a runoff if you voted in the opposing party's primary. If you didn't vote at all (probably 80+% of black Mississippians), you can vote in a runoff.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:07 pm to Navytiger74
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Dems can vote in a GOP primary or runoff as long as they didn't vote in the Dem primary (or runoff) and vice versa.
Sounds pretty cut and dry and easy to prove
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:07 pm to Wolfhound45
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The allegation is that a lot of people who voted in the Dem primary also voted in the Republican runoff, which is against state law and makes for an invalidated vote.
I remember a time when I would
Now I just :shrug:
When was the last time anyone from a political standpoint was ever held accountable for anything they did.
This post was edited on 6/26/14 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:07 pm to Navytiger74
I don't think it matters. If he runs as a write-in candidate, I think he wins the general.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:08 pm to Navytiger74
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He lost to the better man.
I don't think we can characterize either candidate as the better man. This was an absolute fiasco from start to finish.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:08 pm to Wolfhound45
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I don't think we can characterize either candidate as the better man. This was an absolute fiasco from start to finish.
+1
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:10 pm to Lsut81
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Sounds pretty cut and dry and easy to prove
Since Miss doesn't register by party, they can't know how you voted. Only that you did vote (though one could rightfully assume that 90+% of blacks in the state who did vote in the primary voted Dem).
Maybe someone can correct me on that, but they can't legally demand that you reveal your vote.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:13 pm to teke184
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I don't think we can characterize either candidate as the better man. This was an absolute fiasco from start to finish.
This election notwithstanding, and I'm no great follower of Mississippi politics, Thad Cochran struck me as a grounded, concerned, southern Senator. He didn't make decisions in a vacuum. Mississippi is a very poor state, and any lawmaker in Washington would be remiss to not steer some federal dollars their way.
Hell, from my limited interactions with Trent Lott I liked him. Both very courtly men.
I don't have much stomach for incendiary rabble-rousers masquerading as would-be statesmen.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:15 pm to Navytiger74
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they can't know how you voted. Only that you did vote
Oh, I see what you are saying... I was under the assumption that the Dem and Rep primaries were on different days, so the election commissions would know X voted in the Dem primaries and now they are voting in the Rep run-off.
If the Dem and Rep primaries were on the same day, then yeah, theres no way to tell which primary they voted in.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:15 pm to Navytiger74
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Maybe someone can correct me on that, but they can't legally demand that you reveal your vote.
This is why he's choosing his precincts wisely.
If it's a precinct that went 95% for Cochran and has hundreds of invalid votes, then those votes would clearly come out of Cochran's column.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:16 pm to olgoi khorkhoi
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I don't think it matters. If he runs as a write-in candidate, I think he wins the general.
Does Miss require a majority in general elections (like La). If it's a simple plurality, this would probably hand the election to Childers.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:17 pm to teke184
I heard the Cochran camp was passing out money to blacks for them to vote.
Here is what the old bastard should have done.
He calls Mac, and says look bud, lets unite the party and make a deal.
I will serve 3 years and then step aside, snd the governor will then appoint you to fill out my term.
Here is what the old bastard should have done.
He calls Mac, and says look bud, lets unite the party and make a deal.
I will serve 3 years and then step aside, snd the governor will then appoint you to fill out my term.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:19 pm to S.E.C. Crazy
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Here is what the old bastard should have done.
He calls Mac, and says look bud, lets unite the party and make a deal.
I will serve 3 years and then step aside, snd the governor will then appoint you to fill out my term.
Cochran's so out of it that he didn't even know Eric Cantor lost his primary. When the Majority Leader of the House, from your own freaking party, gets tossed in the primary, that's something you should know about.
On top of that, that's the kind of deal where you can get screwed and, if you try to complain about it, there's really no one you can go to because it's not a legal deal.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:19 pm to Navytiger74
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Will this be the norm going forward? Every loser of a close election threatening court action?
He lost to the better man.
Are you just saying this because you like Cochran more or do you honestly believe there is no legal case to be made? Because the only relevant matter is whether or not McDaniel's claims for legal action is consistent with Mississippi laws.
Posted on 6/26/14 at 5:19 pm to Navytiger74
The ardent ones voting in mid terms are likely the same crossing over though. Democrats cheating in a republican election, now they're being arrogant and sloppy, they won't have their good ole boys to hide their crime. This gonna be good!
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