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re: City of Glendale, CA releases statement that they’re no longer cooperating with ICE

Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:25 am to
Posted by Rip Torn
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:25 am to
Sure you aren’t? Lol “I am so conservative I have to remind everyone continuously how conservative I am”
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
53369 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:25 am to
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Says the guy that got so emotional he forgot how to read


you’re making a fool of yourself….yet again. Moron.
Posted by beerJeep
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:26 am to
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I'm not a democrat.




IM JUST ME DAMMIT IM AN INDIVIDUAL NOT A MONOLITH!!!

You tell em powerbottom!
Posted by Wellborn
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Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:38 am to
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I said he owns "part" of what is going on
And he does

Because he’s defending federal law enforcement officers who were attacked while carrying out their duties involving the enforcement of laws that are already in the books?

Why is anyone even arguing that what is currently going on by protestors in California is ok?

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:42 am to
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Because he’s defending federal law enforcement officers who were attacked while carrying out their duties involving the enforcement of laws that are already in the books?

Why is anyone even arguing that what is currently going on by protestors in California is ok?


What does any of this have to do with the event in OP, though?

The city terminating a contract with fedgov to house prisoners is not directly related to any of that illegality.
Posted by pankReb
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:47 am to
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If California seceded, it would have a larger GDP than all but these countries US China Germany Japan India It would have a larger economy than these notable countries UK France Italy Canada and almost twice the GDP of Russia


This retarded take acts as if California’s GDP is independent of the United States.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
39644 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:50 am to
Damn. SFP got destroyed ITT
Posted by Drew1964
Member since Nov 2024
134 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:51 am to
Frick them. Send them to Alcatraz
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:52 am to
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The city terminating a contract with fedgov to house prisoners is not directly related to any of that illegality.

Why do you keep repeating this train of thought?

Do you or do you not think the actions reported in the OP made by the City of Glendale work to support or hinder the federal government’s attempt at enforcing immigration violations that are [very clearly] abundant and ongoing throughout California?
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 9:53 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:53 am to
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Damn. SFP got destroyed ITT


What?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:56 am to
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Why do you keep repeating this train of thought?

Because

1. It's true
2. The OP remains the same

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Do you or do you not think the actions reported in the OP made by the City of Glendale work to support or hinder the federal government’s attempt at enforcing immigration violations that are [very clearly] abundant and ongoing throughout California?

That is a problem fedgov is going to have to deal with.

They built the system to rely on state and local infrastructure to enact these policies. This means collaboration with these state and local jurisdictions is paramount to continue the policy.

Fedgov constructing a system unilaterally that creates weaknesses everywhere based on reliance on other actors is their own doing. Their failure to listen to their collaborators is their own doing, as well.

None of this is illegal on the part of the state/local jurisdictions. Trying to spin this as some illegality is completely intellectually dishonest. Trying to associate other illegality by other actors that is unrelated to this decision is even more intellectually dishonest.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 9:58 am
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 9:58 am to
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If a law is deemed constitutional, a state does indeed have to obey the fed on it. Works for both red and blue states.


The State doesn't have to assist the feds on a federal issue.

However, per the Supremacy Clause, they cannot prohibit the feds from doing their job.

Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:00 am to
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HOW EXACTLY does the country need CA?!?! I bet we can grow grapes and strawberries elsewhere.


Grapes and strawberries? What about tech and finance? Too much fancy book learnin’ for ya, maw? What about manufacturing? Entertainment? Drinking your prune juice by yourself is no fun without being able to switch between Andy Griffith and Magnum PI reruns. Total hillbilly shite.

CA is the largest donor state, tax-wise, in the country. CA has the fourth largest economy in the world. It represents 15% of the country’s GDP.

I’m from Louisiana. Usually proud of it (then I read stuff like CA is only good for “strawberries and grapes”). I’ve lived in CA, I hated it. But to say the US doesn’t need it is just embarrassing, and posts like yours are why everyone outside of Louisiana thinks we’re all dumb.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
54878 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:02 am to
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Source?



LINK /

It looks like a different blue state actually was the biggest donor state for the last year data is available (NY) and California was second on the list.

The relevance is the people shouting to "get rid of" California likely live in welfare states that rely on California's tax dollars.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:04 am to
If people stop being so high strung and emotional, having a discussion about the country without California (assuming no civil war) would be fun.

I imagine California would become like our other neighbors, Canada and Mexico. One of our closest allies who we need for economic and geographical reasons, tied together by those economic and geographic factors (along with cultural ones, obviously).

The scary scenario would be the emotional types on here getting their way and California becoming an enemy state. Imagine the country of California and China working together. China could be military bases on our continent's west coast and China-California would control a huge portion of shipping in the Pacific as well as tech-AI globally.

The super scary scenario is the above one, but continuing to piss off Canada and Mexico so they join in with the China-California association, and maybe get Washington and Oregon to join in. The US would be incredibly weaker if that happened.
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:05 am to
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They built the system to rely on state and local infrastructure to enact these policies. This means collaboration with these state and local jurisdictions is paramount to continue the policy.

And how is that “collaboration” going? How is LA/Glendsle assisting with that?

The system was built on the assumption that the law would be followed. That hasn’t happened, and unmanageable numbers of illegal immigrants freely roaming the country with zero accountability is the result.

The current administration is now attempting to put a stop to it — without the support of local government in California. And that’s a damn shame.

I’ve repeatedly used verbiage such as the City of Glendale is “shunning” federal law, in each post I’ve made. Yet you continue to try and turn that into something I haven’t said.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 10:09 am
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:08 am to
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The scary scenario would be the emotional types on here getting their way and California becoming an enemy state. Imagine the country of California and China working together. China could be military bases on our continent's west coast and China-California would control a huge portion of shipping in the Pacific as well as tech-AI globally.


The Port of Los Angeles and the Port of Long Beach together form the nation's busiest container port complex. It's obvious that the people who are preaching to get rid of California aren't considering the economic impacts of what that would look like for the country as a whole.


Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:12 am to
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The system was built on the assumption that the law would be followed. That hasn’t happened, and unmanageable numbers of illegal immigrants freely roaming the country with zero accountability is the result.

Different admins had different policies and different frictions with these various jurisdictions.

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The current administration is now attempting to put a stop to it — without the support of local government in California. And that’s a damn shame.

But the current admin did nothing to work on the infrastructure that requires collaboration with these governments to work. That's the point.

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the City of Glendale is “shunning” federal law,

It's not, though. They're allowed to have a stance on how they want the feds to operate, and they can use the aforementioned collaborations as a legal way to respond to what they perceive as bad acts by fedgov. That is fully legal and within the spirit of what it means to be America.

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Yet you continue to try and turn that into something I haven’t said.

Because they're not "shunning" federal law

You've also said these things in just this thread

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Because he’s defending federal law enforcement officers who were attacked while carrying out their duties involving the enforcement of laws that are already in the books?

Why is anyone even arguing that what is currently going on by protestors in California is ok?


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Help deport all the illegal voters they have relied upon and will rely on for the 2026 midterms???


A cynical, but sadly, solid point.

Although the 2024 Presidential election started to show some cracks in this armor. [Legal] Hispanics are increasingly becoming just as weary of the inmates running the asylum, as evidenced by the voting shift.


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“Issue?!” They’re BREAKING THE LAW.


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It’s been a slow, authorized, foreign invasion.
The warnings were clear … and completely ignored.

None of this should be a surprise. It’s the natural consequence of unchecked illegal immigration and virtually open, porous borders.


Clearly more than this meek "I just said shunning the law" talking point.

You even broke character and clearly said they were "breaking" the law (in all caps, I might add).
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:13 am to
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The Port of Los Angeles and the Port of Long Beach together form the nation's busiest container port complex. It's obvious that the people who are preaching to get rid of California aren't considering the economic impacts of what that would look like for the country as a whole.


If you saw their responses earlier, they were not serious people.

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The tech industry will move elsewhere, the US is a vast territory with plenty of other opportunities.

And ports.


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Companies move dumb arse


These arguments were clearly dropped very quickly after that silliness
Posted by Wellborn
Cypress, TX
Member since Oct 2014
3815 posts
Posted on 6/9/25 at 10:17 am to
The BREAKING THE LAW quote I made in all caps was about the immigration violators, after someone referred to the current events as an “immigration issue.”

You know exactly what I’ve been talking about, as well as the tone I’ve taken. You’re splitting hairs, which is why I question your intentions.
This post was edited on 6/9/25 at 10:19 am
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