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re: CIA Kept Soviet Cancer Research Classified for 64 Years
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:34 pm to AlterEd
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:34 pm to AlterEd
quote:in 1946, the research was released to the west so that other scientists could test the hypothesis, duplicate results, and further research. The KR formula and formulation was duplicated, tested and reported on publicly by western scientists. Efficacy did not pan out. Those facts were never classified.
TIME magazine reporting on it doesn't mean the research wasn't classified by the CIA. It 100% was.
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Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:37 pm to NC_Tigah
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as research was then ongoing on the same subject in the west.
Show your work here.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:40 pm to AlterEd
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Show your work here.
He already posted a Time article form 1946 discussing it
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:41 pm to AlterEd
Whether it was or wasn’t classified is irrelevant to your premise that anti parasitic medications are some miracle cure hidden away to benefit big pharma. You people believe the dumbest crap. Most cancer patients who are terminally ill or have a very difficult diagnosis are willing to try nearly every conceivable alternative treatment including experimental medications for cancer similar to ivermectin. Some illnesses are simply very difficult to treat whether you believe it’s some vast conspiracy or not.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:42 pm to Rip Torner
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Whether it was or wasn’t classified is irrelevant to your premise that anti parasitic medications are some miracle cure
I never made that claim. Quit lying.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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He already posted a Time article
=/= Ongoing research. He claimed that the research was released to the west for further development, but there isn't any evidence that this ever happened.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:44 pm to AlterEd
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I never made that claim
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My wife's oncologist didn't know shite about it until I informed him that her recovery from stage 4 uterine cancer coincided with when she began taking fenbendazole tablets. He had no clue.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:44 pm to AlterEd
So Russia has cured cancer or are they also part of the vast CIA conspiracy? Cancer survival rates must be astronomical in Eastern Europe then or do most people who can afford it still travel to the US for treatment? I think you know the answer, there is no miracle cure and likely never will be.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:45 pm to SlowFlowPro
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My wife's oncologist didn't know shite about it until I informed him that her recovery from stage 4 uterine cancer coincided with when she began taking fenbendazole tablets. He had no clue.
This isn't a claim that it was a cure. My wife ended up passing away. I would never claim it was a cure.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:45 pm to Rip Torner
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So Russia has cured cancer
Nobody has made this claim. You're still lying.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:47 pm to AlterEd
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This isn't a claim that it was a cure. My wife ended up passing away. I would never claim it was a cure.
Why even bring that up in the first place, then?
Also, when someone said "they don't work on cancer" you replied
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Have the frickin decency to admit that you either don't know what you're talking about or you're outright lying
I'm failing to understand what you're stating about these treatments.
They're not cures, so what are they? You clearly think they "work on cancer". What does that mean?
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:49 pm to onmymedicalgrind
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You are making 0 sense. Do you know what "prescriptions" and "pharmacies" are?
I suspect you are correct, but I wish you would elaborate.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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They're not cures, so what are they? You clearly think they "work on cancer". What does that mean?
They are very effective at fighting cancer. But they are not cures. I watched her cancer disappear when she began using them. And then it metastisized and exploded throughout her body when she quit taking them for a couple months. Then she got back on them and the cancer began to go away again, but it was too late as the uterine cancer had spread to her brain. By the end of it all I was feeding her food as if she were a baby.
I would never wish that on anyone. But I have seen first hand how effective they are at fighting cancer.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:52 pm to Rip Torner
To be fair, he didn’t claim antiparasitics cure cancer. The Daily Mail article is framed that way though - “CIA hid a cancer breakthrough” which obviously pulls people toward that conclusion. The interesting wrinkle is that the KR research was already being discussed in the mainstream press in the 1940s (that Time article posted above). That makes it look less like a hidden discovery and more like one of many early cancer leads that got attention and then faded when follow-up research didn’t pan out.
The story by the Daily was engagement bait meant to drive this sort of reaction between people drawn to conspiracy attractors (who'll then re-post and generate controversy/discussion/clicks).
The story by the Daily was engagement bait meant to drive this sort of reaction between people drawn to conspiracy attractors (who'll then re-post and generate controversy/discussion/clicks).
This post was edited on 3/10/26 at 12:53 pm
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:53 pm to Freauxzen
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I'm not saying a cure for cancer does or doesn't exist, but I don't think someone worrying about family, for most people that would be in that situation, would really stop them from whatever perceived amount of power or money they get in return. Humans are incredibly vulnerable to both.
I see your point, but we get cure after cure that destroys a disease that the medical industry makes a ton treating. There is money in the cure. Plus there is fame, Nobel Prizes, going down in history. These people who think cures are being withheld are nuts.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:55 pm to AlterEd
You aren’t making sense. She wasn’t on any treatment protocols other than ivermectin and she had uterine cancer? The oncologist wasn’t aware she was on ivermectin?
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:55 pm to TigerDoc
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To be fair, he didn’t claim antiparasitics cure cancer.
Thank you for being honest. You're about the only one in here who is at the moment.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:55 pm to Rip Torner
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You aren’t making sense.
I'm sorry you can't read well.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:56 pm to AlterEd
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What I want to know is, so long as medical research is done ethically, what justification could there possibly be for classifying it? Much less for 64 years.
The research wasn’t classified though. The translation of it was. That is an incredibly important distinction that you’re just completely glossing over.
Posted on 3/10/26 at 12:57 pm to AlterEd
quote:T. S. Hauschka, L. H. Saxe Jr., M. Blair (1947)
as research was then ongoing on the same subject in the west.
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Show your work here.
“Trypanosoma cruzi in the Treatment of Mouse Tumors”
Journal of the National Cancer Institute, Vol. 7, pp. 189–197.
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Theodore S. Hauschka & M. B. Goodwin (1948)
“Trypanosoma cruzi Endotoxin (KR) in the Treatment of Malignant Mouse Tumors”
Science, Vol. 107, No. 2788, pp. 600–602.
LINK
Replication attempts produced weak or inconsistent results, i.e.,
No significant tumor regression
Effects only in specific transplanted mouse tumors
Results that could not be reproduced consistently
Toxicity problems appeared in animals
Further testing showed that KR extracts could produce serious systemic toxicity, including damage to liver, spleen, and kidneys. The KR preparation of deactivated Trypanosoma cruzi extract contained powerful endotoxin-like inflammatory compounds which proved highly toxic, not just to the tumor, but to the host.
LINK
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