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re: Chromosome Study: All Men Can Be Traced to One Man
Posted on 2/6/14 at 5:22 pm to JakeTheDog
Posted on 2/6/14 at 5:22 pm to JakeTheDog
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Not trying to make any point for or against God.
Pick a side, bro. The stakes are too high here for pussy-footing around. You're either an ignorant follower of ancient lies or you're an arrogant heathen spitting in the face of his creator. Get with it.
This post was edited on 2/6/14 at 5:29 pm
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Posted on 2/6/14 at 7:03 pm to Roger Klarvin
After painstakingly reading this entire thread, all I have to add is:
Roger Klarvin
Korkstand
Roger Klarvin
Korkstand
Posted on 2/6/14 at 8:06 pm to KCT
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These primeval people aren't parallel to the biblical Adam and Eve. They weren't the first modern humans on the planet, but instead just the two out of thousands of people alive at the time with unbroken male or female lineages that continue on today.
The rest of the human genome contains tiny snippets of DNA from many other ancestors — they just don't show up in mitochondrial or Y-chromosome DNA, Hammer said. (For instance, if an ancient woman had only sons, then her mitochondrial DNA would disappear, even though the son would pass on a quarter of her DNA via the rest of his genome.)
Like previouslt stated several times, OP clearly hasn't read the article/ has a limited understanding of science and critical thinking
Posted on 2/6/14 at 8:11 pm to Korkstand
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Many of the people alive at the time of this common ancestor also have ancestors alive today. You have two grandfathers, don't you? And 4 great-grandfathers? And 8 great-great-grandfathers? Well, someone else also has 8 great-great-grandfathers, and the two of you might have all of them in common (your sibling), or you might have 4 of them in common (a cousin), or you might have 1 in common (a distant cousin), or you might have none in common. If you look back far enough, we all have one common male ancestor, and this study has estimated how long ago he lived. That's it. You and I might have 1,000 common ancestors that lived at the same time, but you and a guy in China might only have 1.
Good explanation, but somethig tells me Karla still won't be able to wrap her head around it
Posted on 2/6/14 at 8:12 pm to RTOTA
I'd hate to be that one dude in a crime investigation....dang, that would stink..
Posted on 2/6/14 at 9:06 pm to KCT
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How so, Roger? The study found that all of mankind can be traced back to one man and one woman. If several people were "created" simultaneously, how can that be?
Instead of being a smartass, why not clear it up for us, genius?
Once again genius. Actually read the article.
That is not what it says...at all. As 6 pages of this thread has point out to you...over and over.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 9:19 pm to asurob1
Someone tell Karla that mitochondrial Eve and the "common ancestor" male lived at completely separate times and he/she/it might explode.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 9:37 pm to RTOTA
Everybody quoted me and nobody corrected my ancestor/descendant error.
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:01 pm to KCT
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Why does there have to be a conflict between God and Science? I've never understood the need to belong to one camp or the other.
THIS
Posted on 2/6/14 at 10:02 pm to Korkstand
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Everybody quoted me and nobody corrected my ancestor/descendant error
that's because you are a good debater, without being a dick
Posted on 2/6/14 at 11:54 pm to KCT
quote:There doesn't and there isn't. Unless you're a bible thumping evangelical fundamentalist or a brain dead atheist; which makes up a significant portion of the USA unfortunately.
Why does there have to be a conflict between God and Science? I've never understood the need to belong to one camp or the other.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 12:19 am to JazzyJeff
Nm
This post was edited on 2/7/14 at 12:20 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 1:06 am to KCT
frick, it says it in the first few paragraphs of the article YOU linked.
Despite their overlap in time, ancient "Adam" and ancient "Eve" probably didn't even live near each other, let alone mate. [The 10 Biggest Mysteries of the First Humans]
"Those two people didn't know each other," said Melissa Wilson Sayres, a geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the study.
Despite their overlap in time, ancient "Adam" and ancient "Eve" probably didn't even live near each other, let alone mate. [The 10 Biggest Mysteries of the First Humans]
"Those two people didn't know each other," said Melissa Wilson Sayres, a geneticist at the University of California, Berkeley, who was not involved in the study.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 2:00 am to heatom2
The real question is, when are we going to get our mutant powers like the x-men?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:21 am to LucasP
not saved yet with the sign language Lucas
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:25 am to RTOTA
two out of thousands
if an ancient woman had only sons, then her mitochondrial DNA would disappear,
For thousands of instances...ok
The rest of the human genome contains tiny snippets of DNA from many other ancestors .. and what is the rest of the DNA?
if an ancient woman had only sons, then her mitochondrial DNA would disappear,
For thousands of instances...ok
The rest of the human genome contains tiny snippets of DNA from many other ancestors .. and what is the rest of the DNA?
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:33 am to KCT
I've known this since vacation Bible school in 1971.
There was a cop show about that guy, as well as something about an apple and a rib.
There was a cop show about that guy, as well as something about an apple and a rib.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:36 am to Ace Midnight
We came from another planet.
But seriously... where or how we originated doesn't really matter to me as much as where we're headed.
...though an interesting article.
But seriously... where or how we originated doesn't really matter to me as much as where we're headed.
...though an interesting article.
This post was edited on 2/8/14 at 11:00 am
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:57 am to KCT
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Why does there have to be a conflict between God and Science?
It's a man made controversy like "War on Women." Both coexist peacefully in my head. I think our real purpose for being here, after we do all our living and dying stuff, is to figure out how God did it.
Posted on 2/7/14 at 7:58 am to KCT
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So, no one is surprised that all people of all races can be traced back to one man?
are you surprised that you and your cousins have common ancestors? Can you see that as you add more and more distant cousins to the group for comparison, the number of common ancestors gets less and less? Can you imagine that at some point that number gets down to 1, and the comparison group includes all humans?
This doesn't seem like such a stretch to me.
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