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re: Children of Military born overseas not considered to be American at birth
Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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THE MOST CLEAR WAY OF THINKING ABOUT THIS
the children of U.S. citizen gov't employees and service members born abroad will, under this policy, be treated just like the children of non-gov't, non-service member U.S. citizens born abroad.
It was basically a policy change to make the standards uniform
THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 4:54 pm
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Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:53 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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I agree. I know everybody who has disagreed with my interpretation doesn't want to believe that this is what the new policy says, but I think it's pretty clear it is significantly changing the standard here.
You are interpreting it wrong, big time
Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:54 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
quote:
the children of U.S. citizen gov't employees and service members born abroad will, under this policy, be treated just like the children of non-gov't, non-service member U.S. citizens born abroad.
It was basically a policy change to make the standards uniform
Which is bullshite
Both my kids were born abroad when I was stationed in Europe
Adding an extra layer of bullshite and money for any kids born to military members stationed overseas to become citizens is absurd
This post was edited on 8/28/19 at 4:55 pm
Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:55 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Which is bullshite
Both my kids were born abroad when I was stationed in Europe
Adding an extra layer of bullshite and money for them to become citizens is absurd
Truth, but if you dont think the military will fix this or screen, or have programs put in place, you're being naive. Not saying it isn't a hassle, but the military thing will get taken care of.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:56 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The OP is heavily implying something completely false.
99.999% of children born abroad will still be considered us citizens under this policy change.
If you are born to 2 US citizens, this doesn’t affect you at all.
99.999% of children born abroad will still be considered us citizens under this policy change.
If you are born to 2 US citizens, this doesn’t affect you at all.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:58 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Both my kids were born abroad when I was stationed in Europe
Adding an extra layer of bullshite and money for any kids born to military members stationed overseas to become citizens is absurd
IT DOES NOT ADD AN EXTRA LAYER IN YOUR CASE
Posted on 8/28/19 at 4:59 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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How is that not changing the policy on children born to US Citizen armed forces overseas?
It's not because it's clarifying the application process and heading off a very common error that delays processing the documents for citizenship application. If you are in the military and a US citizen serving overseas there is a process that has to be met for the newborn to have documentation for citizenship. This is also an issue for SM's who marry a foreign spouse that already has children. Can't simply claim that their US-based residence counts for children who have never lived there. That's always been the case and nothing in the memo presents a bar to citizenship through the proper process.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:00 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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If you are born to 2 US citizens, this doesn’t affect you at all.
Yes it does:
DOS has interpreted INA 320 to apply solely to children who are physically in the United States and does not recognize an exception by policy for children of U.S. military and U.S.government employees stationed outside of the United States.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:01 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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IT DOES NOT ADD AN EXTRA LAYER IN YOUR CASE
If you have to petition for you child’s citizenship
Yes it does for all those stationed overseas
I’m familiar with the process of passports and child birth abroad certificates
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:01 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Adding an extra layer of bullshite and money for any kids born to military members stationed overseas to become citizens is absurd
This memo does no such thing. You moron.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:01 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:03 pm to Clames
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That's always been the case and nothing in the memo presents a bar to citizenship through the proper process.
You would now have to go through the naturalization process every time. Previously, if you met the residency requirements, you would simply fill out a form and your child is automatically a citizen.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:05 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:05 pm to Clames
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This memo does no such thing. You moron.
Shut up book licker
If this actually has you petition for your child’s citizenship
Then yes it add more layers of paperwork and cost
They need to clarify this quick
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:06 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
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This attorney on Twitter is refuting you
Good for him. I'm an attorney too.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:10 pm to momentoftruth87
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Iirc my wife - while I was on AD - was around $500. Application, photos, interview, test, citizenship.
I don’t remember how much it was for each of my boys
For birth abroad, initial passport and all the rest the processing fees wasn’t cheap
My wife’s green card has been $1800 so far
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:16 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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My wife’s green card has been $1800 so far
Yeah, you paid more, my wife moved from UK to us in high school, so her parents paid the green card stuff lol. I forgot about that, but was speaking post permanent resident status.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:17 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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Shut up book licker
frickwit cocksucker.
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If this actually has you petition for your child’s citizenship
Well it doesn't except in cases that never applied to you, you dumb shite.
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Then yes it add more layers of paperwork and cost
It actually does the opposite since it's clarfying a common problem that often results in application delays.
quote:
They need to clarify this quick
They have but your tiny, react-first-think-last brain isn't getting it.
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:22 pm to Clames
No sense in arguing with someone who has never been through the process
My kids I didn’t have to petition for their citizenship
If this policy requires people to do so while born abroad then it adds more to the process
Hopefully they clarify this, dunno how many times I have to say this
I’m not jumping to any conclusions
My kids I didn’t have to petition for their citizenship
If this policy requires people to do so while born abroad then it adds more to the process
Hopefully they clarify this, dunno how many times I have to say this
I’m not jumping to any conclusions
Posted on 8/28/19 at 5:24 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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No sense in arguing with someone who has never been through the process
Clames is running his mouth about something he has no experience with again?
We are shocked.
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