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re: Check out this absurd press release from an Australian politician re mosque shootings
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:48 pm to blueboy
Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:48 pm to blueboy
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forced conversions have never been a tool of religious conquest
This just isn’t true, and shows an ignorance of history to be frank.
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Posted on 3/15/19 at 7:53 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
So, I guess political correctness isn’t at the same level in New Zealand that it is here
Surprise surprise
Surprise surprise
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:05 pm to MF Doom
muslims should stay in islamisbad
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:07 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
He’s not wrong, but I wouldn’t have said such things when the poor victims haven’t even been buried yet.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:51 pm to Rougarou13
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He speaks the truth as to why the tensions exist. However, that’s not to say that the tensions should exist. I have zero issue with Muslims. However, a large portion of the world does.
A large portion of the world does not have a problem with Islam, rather Islam has a problem with a large portion of the world.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 8:53 pm to Ebbandflow
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Really? So you think two billion people are out to kill you?
Most of them would settle for subjugation.
Posted on 3/15/19 at 11:40 pm to HailHailtoMichigan!
He's not wrong.
Islam's entire history is one of violence and genocide and oppression of non-Muslims.
They slaughtered millions in India.
They slaughtered millions in Armenia.
Anywhere they become the majority, other religions are harshly persecuted and people are killed en masse.
Islam's entire history is one of violence and genocide and oppression of non-Muslims.
They slaughtered millions in India.
They slaughtered millions in Armenia.
Anywhere they become the majority, other religions are harshly persecuted and people are killed en masse.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:05 am to crazy4lsu
quote:Again, you're talking about Inquisition-era "conquistadors" who were looking for riches and were going to conquer whomever they encountered, regardless of religion. Forced conversions, in this case, are an afterthought, and a good way to get the blessing, and funding, of the incredibly wealthy church.
It was the explicit intent of the Spanish crown to convert peoples they encountered, by force if necessary, which they often did.
Pick any year, from about 700 to 1400 AD. Any year you like, and I'll provide you with specific, religiously-motivated islamic aggression and conquest or attempted conquest.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:09 am to blueboy
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Again, you're talking about Inquisition-era "conquistadors" who were looking for riches and were going to conquer whomever they encountered, regardless of religion. Forced conversions, in this case, are an afterthought, and a good way to get the blessing, and funding, of the incredibly wealthy church.
Pick any year, from about 700 to 1400 AD. Any year you like, and I'll provide you with specific, religiously-motivated islamic aggression and conquest or attempted conquest.
So any Christian aggression was always motivated by other factors, whereas Islamic aggression was always motivated purely by religious zeal. This is a very simplistic and naive view of history. This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 9:10 am
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:25 am to Mo Jeaux
quote:Muhammed himself was a military conqueror. He preached it. It's in the doctrine. They even have a word for the forcibly converted. Islam is a campaign of religious conquest that has NEVER ENDED since "the prophet" took up arms, once he had sufficient numbers and no longer had to play nice with his neighbors.
whereas Islamic aggression was always motivated purely by religious zeal.
And it's still going on today. Their sheep mass migrate and their soldiers spread fear with terrorism.
Or they round up women by the millions and rip their clits off. Or they slaughter Christians by the thousands. Not in fricking 1492. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow.
Oh, but some medieval Christians were mean to people and some today won't even bake you a gay wedding cake. Boo hoo.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:31 am to blueboy
Again, you have a very simplistic and naive understanding of history. Look a little more deeply into the Ottoman expansion alone if you think that it involved solely religious motivation.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:38 am to FredBear
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I disagree. His assessment seems spot on and the truth should never be denied just to appease someone's feelings.
The number of upvotes that this post has shows overall what kind of garbage posts on this board. I’m no fan of Islam, but for frick’s sake this letter is completely unacceptable. If this happened in the US and any US Senator said this shite (especially within 24 hours of the massacre), they would have to resign in shame.
This is not their fault; it’s some frickhead white supremacists fault. They were praying in peace, but since they are praying to Allah then they clearly deserve this. Play stupid game win stupid prizes, am I right? This is a fricking low for the board.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 9:40 am
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:39 am to FredBear
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I disagree. His assessment seems spot on and the truth should never be denied just to appease someone's feelings
His assessment is archaic nonsense.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:44 am to Mo Jeaux
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simplistic and naive understanding of history
You don't know shite about history. You can't even google good.Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:45 am to TigerDoc
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Take a look at your upvote/downvote ratio and re-consider the nature of your "cause" for a sec.
The upvote to downvote ratio is completely disgusting and has lowered my already exceptionally low opinion of the average poster on this board. Seems like the average opinion on this board is indifference at best (it was Muslims in white countries slaughtered, so who cares) to outright glee (Lol, Best prank ever on a mosque). It is absolutely disgusting and every person who likes that letter or justifies the murders in any way should be ashamed of themselves.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:50 am to blueboy
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Or they round up women by the millions and rip their clits off. Or they slaughter Christians by the thousands. Not in fricking 1492. Yesterday. Today. Tomorrow.
Oh, but some medieval Christians were mean to people and some today won't even bake you a gay wedding cake. Boo hoo.
There were ~3 million or so instances of Christians mutilating genitals in the US last year.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:58 am to buckeye_vol
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I do have a problem blaming the murders of dozens of innocent people on anyone but the murderer and the ideas that led him to that. Because you can use that same rationalization for anyone. A Jew murdered Jesus, and Isreal has killed Palestinians. So when that guy murdered a bunch of Jews in Pittsburgh, I would find it asinine if some Canadian politician (or anyone) blamed the US policies that support policies of a Jewish country and the Jewish religion for the attack.
Exactly. It’s fricking absurd and (for lack of a better word even if I disagree with it largely) Islamophobic. No place in society blaming the massacred for their own demise.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:59 am to bmy
quote:Not a Christian practice, though. And, you know, not forcibly done to adults, very much against their will.
There were ~3 million or so instances of Christians mutilating genitals in the US last year.
Nice lame swat, though. I think even you all can see that your attempted equivalency is a joke.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:01 am to ShortyRob
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If I moved a bunch of people professing love for the KKK into a majority black neighborhood and someone in that neighborhood ended up killing a bunch of them, that dude's definitely a murderer but I most fricking certainly bear some of the blame.
So what do you propose we do with Muslims in our country? Revoke their citizenships and throw them in Syria? Because if you don’t and another white supremacist shoots up a mosque, then that blood is on our hands in your fricked up mind.
I swear some posters here are showing they’d thrive in 1930s Germany.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:03 am to blueboy
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Not a Christian practice, though. And, you know, not forcibly done to adults, very much against their will.
Nice lame swat, though. I think even you all can see that your attempted equivalency is a joke.
Forcibly done to infants is somehow better?
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