Charles Spurgeon

Thanks for reply. I don’t know if you know it or not but you can get his sermons off the internet. This man could preach.

It is said Charles Spurgeon was the only person Queen Victoria feared in England.


Charles Spurgeon is one of the 3 greatest preachers in English history, the other two are John Wesley and Henry Grattan Guinness.

Henry Grattan Guinness is little known today, but in his time, he was the greatest of the prophecy preachers in the late 1800's. Best known for the dates he forecast on Isarel's return as a nation.

The devil is not afraid of a dust covered bible- Charles Spurgeon

I love listening to his sermons. AW Tozer is another good one.

He was an excellent preacher but his Theology is wrong on many counts.

1) Real Presence in the Eucharist

2) Infant Baptism is legit and was widely practiced in the Early Church

3) Baptism itself is not just symbolic - it cleanses the Soul from all Sin. The Holy Spirit works through Baptism to make this happen.

4) And of course, he was wrong on the whole "Bible Alone" "Faith Alone" things. These ideas were unknown anywhere in Christianity before the 1500s.

Finally, this is Political Talk, not Religion Talk.

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Don’t know what “bible “ you’re reading, but it ain’t THE Bible….

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You and Spurgeon don't read the whole Bible. You leave out important OT books that Jesus and the Apostles considered to be Holy Scripture.

So, if Spurgeon never follows the whole Bible, how can he say that he's a "Bible Alone" guy?

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A man must be prudent in such a world as this, or he will find no good, but be betrayed into unnumbered ills.

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Had no intention of discussing the message - only his lyrical ability in presenting it.

But as goes messages for practical application, that one line alone appears to warn against naively allowing oneself to be deceived; therefore the need for "prudence" and "caution" in the choices we make and who we trust.

Is there also not contained within it a thinly veiled reference to the "Great Deceiver" and his snares.

A little closer to home in the socio-political realm, we've exhibited over and over again a disappointing tendency to allow ourselves to be shucked by some politicians and those working for them.

Also, prudence and caution were among the many messages of a countryman who pre-dated him - Burke - and he is regarded as an iconic "conservative."

So there are lessons in Spurgeon that can be found easily enough - as long as one doesn't purposely steel himself to them just because they originated with a religious figure.

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He never had warm feelings about the Catholic religion at all.

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Spurgeon was wrong about the Catholic Church. Sure, it is fair to say that he "never had warm feelings about the Catholic religion at all", but, that's an understatement. The internet is a wonderful resource and his views on the topic are easily found.

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3) Baptism itself is not just symbolic - it cleanses the Soul from all Sin. The Holy Spirit works through Baptism to make this happen.

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Spurgeon aside, this statement alone is not supported in the Bible. If Baptism actually washed away your sin, then following your logic, Jesus was a sinner because he himself was Baptized. In fact, Jesus is totally without sin or he wouldn’t have been qualified to be a perfect sacrifice for us, and the cross was just another criminal killed for his crimes.
No, Jesus IS the very Son of God and is perfect and sinless. His baptism was a symbol to the rest of the world of who he was, and who we are to God through Jesus’ sacrifice. He actually said “No one comes to the Father but by me.”. Jesus’ blood and resurrection- not his baptism. The Holy Spirit was sent when Jesus ascended to comfort, convict us of sin (leading us into our admission of guilt in order to prepare our hearts to accept Jesus’ salvation), and to strengthen and uplift those who have been saved. In other words, the Holy Spirit doesn’t save us, but leads us to an awareness of our need to be saved. Leads us to the door, but we have to open it and let JESUS in… as Jesus said, “Behold I stand at the door and knock. If any man hear my voice and let me in, I will sup with him and he with me.” Jesus saves us when we recognize our standing and hopelessness with God as unworthy sinners, accept Jesus as the Son of God who died sinless on the cross as a sacrifice for our sin debt, and rose again defeating eternal Hell and death for all who choose to believe and make him Lord of our life.

Baptism is a declaration to the rest of all creation of what Jesus’ salvation has done in us- AFTER we’ve asked and received salvation. A declaration of our acceptance of him as Lord.

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The link that I provide explains why your belief is Heresy invented about 15 centuries after Jesus Christ established his Church on Earth.

The Early Church and ALL Christians believed in the remission of sins through Baptism, until the Protestant Rebellion.

It's quite true what I say. You may argue that the Early Church was in error in their belief. You may argue that Paul himself was in error in his belief about Baptism.
But facts are facts - and facts are stubborn things.