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Posted on 12/2/19 at 10:59 am to teke184
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I bet that if StG ate the current costs of EBRSO patrols in BR in exchange for paying $0 into the General Fund to be raided by BRPD, StG could probably end up with a net gain of $16m.
Probably. Let’s force the EBRSO to itemize costs for the different services it provides, and find out what that deficit is.
SG is footing the bill for around $17m to $18m of BRPD’s expenses. Figure out how much EBRSO in SG is subsidized by BR (it’ll be significantly less). Square up, only after both sides of the equation are dealt with.
Unfortunately I don’t think BR will be satisfied until it forces SG to provide its own primary police protection. I really think that’ll cost ~$20m but it’s hard to say without knowing how much EBRSO spends on it. Sandy Springs spends $23.8m on their police dept.
It’s scorched earth tactics all around.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 11:05 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:01 am to BeepNode
It could all have been avoided if they simply allowed the ISD to form.
Baton Rouge gambled, and Baton Rouge lost. St George was perfectly okay with sharing the ball and playing together. Baton Rouge said frick off.
Now that st George has the ball, they want to take it home. And they deserve it.
Baton Rouge gambled, and Baton Rouge lost. St George was perfectly okay with sharing the ball and playing together. Baton Rouge said frick off.
Now that st George has the ball, they want to take it home. And they deserve it.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:03 am to BeepNode
Pretty sure that StG is allowed BY LAW to use EBRSO provided they pay an appropriate amount for services.
And considering the vast majority of unincorporated BR mainly being patrolled by EBRSO now just became StG, then the current parish portion paid by the unincorporated areas could be paid by StG in total, which covers their own police while subsidizing areas like Gardere which no one has annexed.
And considering the vast majority of unincorporated BR mainly being patrolled by EBRSO now just became StG, then the current parish portion paid by the unincorporated areas could be paid by StG in total, which covers their own police while subsidizing areas like Gardere which no one has annexed.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:11 am to beerJeep
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It could all have been avoided if they simply allowed the ISD to form.
LOL no. The end goal was incorporation. They never put a ton of effort into an ISD. They were like “aw shucks, the black caucus said we have to form a city, and even though there’s no legal basis for it, that’s what we are going to do”
The incorporation of the city makes the ISD virtually impossible because now it’ll never have parish-wide support. It barely has support in SG.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:13 am to BeepNode
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Unfortunately I don’t think BR will be satisfied until it forces SG to provide its own primary police protection
They can’t force SG to do anything.
EBRSO is the primary law enforcement agency in the parish. That is the law. That’s in the state constitution.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:14 am to doubleb
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They can’t force SG to do anything.
EBRSO is the primary law enforcement agency in the parish. That is the law. That’s in the state constitution.
They can put money behind their own candidate for sheriff, as well as push to vote no on EBRSO tax renewals unless the sheriff charges more money to SG.
This post was edited on 12/2/19 at 11:16 am
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:16 am to teke184
i don't get why people are making SG or its supporters into the villain(s)
if the city of BR is really in this bad of shape, THEY are the villain b/c they mismanaged their actual, proper revenue while overspending other people's money
if the city of BR is really in this bad of shape, THEY are the villain b/c they mismanaged their actual, proper revenue while overspending other people's money
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:17 am to BeepNode
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even though there’s no legal basis for it,
wut
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:18 am to BeepNode
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Figure out how much EBRSO in SG is subsidized by BR
you're comparing apples to oranges
is BR in EBR Parish?
is SG in BR?
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:30 am to SlowFlowPro
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even though there’s no legal basis for it,
wut
Please cite the code or regulation that says otherwise.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:32 am to BeepNode
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The incorporation of the city makes the ISD virtually impossible because now it’ll never have parish-wide support. It barely has support in SG.
I think it's a statewide vote so EBRP can't stop it.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:34 am to fallguy_1978
It’s a statewide vote AND a parish wide vote, but that will fall on certain lines.
StG, Zachary, and Central all likely vote for it. BR will be a high “no” percentage. Baker is questionable.
StG, Zachary, and Central all likely vote for it. BR will be a high “no” percentage. Baker is questionable.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:35 am to fallguy_1978
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I think it's a statewide vote so EBRP can't stop it.
I regret to inform you that you fell victim to another half-truth. There is indeed a state vote.
.. and also a parish vote.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:37 am to BeepNode
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I regret to inform you that you fell victim to another half-truth. There is indeed a state vote.
I don't live in St George. Makes no difference to me either way. I suppose my taxes may increase but that's going to happen either way because BR is controlled by Democrats now.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:38 am to BeepNode
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Again, you don't hold both sides to the same standard. Citizens in BR pay dedicated taxes to fund the BRPD so you could say the same thing about that arrangement.
That's because the two sides are not the same. BR (city) monies do not support EBRSO while EBR (parish) monies are indeed supporting BRPD. BR (city) residents get a benefit from interfunctionality that allows EBRSO to assist BRPD with issues within BR city limits but EBR (parish) residents do not get the same level of benefit from BRPD.
So you very literally have one group (parish residents) paying for another group (BR residents) to receive a major benefit (extra BRPD manpower and assistance by EBRSO) which the first group does not receive.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:42 am to SlowFlowPro
It’s the “Why did you make me hit you?” argument.
StG has asked for things for a while now and been lied to about them. Now that it’s happening, they’re getting blamed for things that were previously called lies by BR and its supporters.
They are getting blamed for upsetting the apple cart despite paying for a lot of stuff they weren’t getting.
StG has asked for things for a while now and been lied to about them. Now that it’s happening, they’re getting blamed for things that were previously called lies by BR and its supporters.
They are getting blamed for upsetting the apple cart despite paying for a lot of stuff they weren’t getting.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:45 am to BeepNode
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Please cite the code or regulation that says otherwise.
our constitution allows citizens in unincorporated areas a way to incorporate
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:47 am to BlackAdam
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Also, St George residents do not pay additional tax to fund BRPD. That is just a lie. Sales taxes collected at retail located in the St. George area go into the general fund some of which goes to BRPD. Those are the monies Broome has spoken about losing. But those taxes are not paid by St. George residents exclusively. They are paid by anyone who shops at those stores. You don't think people from Kennilworth or even Bankstown shop at Target?
You want to make a law that sales tax is determined not based on location of the sale, but based on the residency of the consumer? Ok. St. George is in for that.
I can guarantee you that your argument is a losing one.
Posted on 12/2/19 at 11:49 am to moneyg
BR pushes for that and I guarantee a lot of mom and pop and midlevel stores start actively agitating against BR.
EBR’s economy is currently in the shitter. Adding extra layers of bureaucracy to businesses trying to eke out a living is going to add a LOT of costs to people and going to cost jobs.
EBR’s economy is currently in the shitter. Adding extra layers of bureaucracy to businesses trying to eke out a living is going to add a LOT of costs to people and going to cost jobs.
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