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re: CDC to announce tomorrow vaccines don't work against the delta variant?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:35 pm to honeybadger07
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:35 pm to honeybadger07
The Tennessee governor needs to tell them to pound sand - we will have youth sports - we will not lockdown
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Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:43 pm to goldennugget
Your link just straight up lies about the preprint they cite. “Results between both groups were almost identical” they said.
31 severe cases of covid in the study.
30 in the placebo group, 1 in the vaccine group.
Yeah almost identical, and the Floyd riots were mostly peaceful.
You fricking people are stupid as shite.
31 severe cases of covid in the study.
30 in the placebo group, 1 in the vaccine group.
Yeah almost identical, and the Floyd riots were mostly peaceful.
You fricking people are stupid as shite.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:44 pm to Tigers0918
Know 5 friends or friends of friends currently with covid. 4 out of the 5 are vaccinated. All have same symptoms.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:45 pm to goldennugget
quote:You're a dork who has no clue about viruses. You are a kook. That is truth. Again, stick with betting and whatever communications career you're desperately trying to break into and leave biology to others.
There is no delta variant.
You're the idiot for falling for media propaganda.
In fact, I truly can't believe you are serious. Is delta variant super virulent? No. Is it more contagious? Yes. Should someone like you panic? No. But to call it nonexistent is absurd.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:47 pm to dewster
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The masks are basically like screen doors on a submarine.
More accurately, it is like using a chain link fence to keep mosquitos out of you yard.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:47 pm to Tiguar
quote:They don't know what they don't know. Ideologically you and I are 95% or more in line with them, but it is obvious when they are out of their depth.
You fricking people are stupid as shite
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:56 pm to the808bass
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that the delta surge has probably already peaked in numerous locations
Yup. Most likely follow Europe. India will have a small spike in the future.
India will have totals less then the US with a population 5 times greater. Lol. Vaccination at less then 10% of the population, all while living in a shithole.
Magic.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 9:58 pm to Tiguar
I bet you think Trump lost - and you call us stupid - you like most liberals are uneducated retards
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:02 pm to Jake88
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Two COVID deaths in 22,000 for non-vaxxed (death rate of .0009%), and one COVID death out of 22,000 for the vaccinated group (death rate .00009%). In essence, COVID is not that dangerous and has a very high survival rate depending on co-morbidities or pre-existing medical issues.
So, what does all this jumbled mess really add up to?
If we can predict pretty accurately, based entirely on political ideology and a review of the calendar, what will happen around the COVID mitigation narrative; which we have been doing for over a year; then that means the politics of COVID is what’s driving the actions of those who are using COVID. Politics is driving the narrative.
Here’s a high level overview of what it appears to be…
COVID is essentially a bad flu virus that targets the respiratory system, hence SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome). It is dangerous if you have pre-existing conditions, but not more dangerous than the regular flu virus for people with those same pre-existing conditions.
We have flu shots every year, but we don’t mandate them; and we don’t shut down businesses to avoid the flu; and we don’t close society and/or shut down commerce; and we don’t destroy schools and education and force people to wear masks to avoid the flu virus. However, in order to weaponize COVID for political benefits, to include mail-in ballot fraud and rebuilding society, a ruse of fear must be maintained.
The fear of COVID is that ruse.
quote:Out of their depth? Really? really?
They don't know what they don't know. Ideologically you and I are 95% or more in line with them, but it is obvious when they are out of their depth.
I get that Sundance was saying the above and probably screwed up in the placebo case study in explanation but bottom line Politics is driving the narrative.
This post was edited on 7/29/21 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:03 pm to goldennugget
The narrative is gone. 95% efficacy my arse.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:03 pm to goldennugget
Wow that was retarded.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:11 pm to goldennugget
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delta variant
So what test do we take to determine if we have the regular China virus, the regular flu or the new Delta one?
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:12 pm to Tigers0918
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+95% of hospitalizations and deaths are from non vaccinated people. The vaccine is working properly, its not perfect, but way better than not having it.
This number is completely false. There are hospitals in which 95% of the covid patients are vaxxed and 100% of covid patients n ICU are vaxxed patients.
Needless to say the hospital staff are confused. Many of them believe the fake "scientists" like Fauci the Fraud. Sad, they believe him.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:17 pm to GumboPot
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That conclusion dealt Americans a heavy blow: People with so-called breakthrough infections — cases that occur despite full vaccination — of the Delta variant may be just as contagious as unvaccinated people, even if they have no symptoms.
I said this yesterday and got downvoted to hell over something about an Indian study. The CDC has data they aren’t releasing because they don’t want to make it seem like the vaccine is less effective.
Vaccinated people are spreading it.
All this means is stop worrying about who is vaccinated and who isn’t. If you want protection from the vaccine, take it. If not, don’t.
Nothing else matters.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:20 pm to WaWaWeeWa
When it came out the "vax" is in the 30 percentile in Israel and that the counties in CA with the highest vax rates have the highest delta rates I concluded the vaxes aren't working and vaccinated folks are spreading covid, delta, wu flu, and flu.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:30 pm to Tigers0918
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This is very very different from OP saying they will announce the vaccine doesn't work. Being able to spread it does not mean it doens't work. Serious cases are still very low even with the higher viral loads.
Come on guys. Being able to catch Covid, spread Covid and die from Covid doesn’t mean the vaccine doesn’t work!
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:34 pm to Shaft Williams
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:35 pm to cajunangelle
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COVID is essentially a bad flu virus that targets the respiratory system, hence SARS (severe acute respiratory syndrome). It is dangerous if you have pre-existing conditions, but not more dangerous than the regular flu virus for people with those same pre-existing conditions.
It is more dangerous than the regular flu because of its ability to infect the lower respiratory tract. Add to the fact that essentially half the country is fat as shite, and of course this is going to have an exaggerated death rate.
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:36 pm to dewster
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My take: frick restrictions. Everyone is aware of the risk by now. The vaccine is readily available. If you don’t have it by now, we shouldn’t be forced into restrictions for you.
This take would unite the country.
However, many people who got the vaccine like to bitch at those who chose not to
Posted on 7/29/21 at 10:42 pm to goldennugget
if there's one site you can trust, it's conservativetreehouse.com/blog
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