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re: CDC to admit Vax causes heart inflammation

Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:53 am to
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:53 am to
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Why is the CDC peddling misinformation?


The CDC never denied that heart issues were a side effect of the vaccines..
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179071 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:53 am to
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2) There will be LONG-TERM constant degrees of inflammation due to the embedded nanoparticulate material / mRNA and chronic immune system response.



This is why they are telling a lot of athletes that had myocarditis due to the vaccine that they are finished playing sports.
Posted by Hogwallop
Member since Jul 2021
413 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:58 am to
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BS. You mean the people who's employers said get the jab or get fired are to blame?


Yes
quote:

You mean the government, media outlets, CDC, Fauci, other doctors/medical "experts", who knowingly, falsely, reported the jab as safe, or worse mandated the jab are NOT to blame?
None of those entities physically forced someone to get vaccinated.

Everybody looking for a handout these days, even conservatives. I'm not responsible for your choices. As a taxpayer, I don't want any settlements from the government. If you want to go after private business, then have at it.
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
1655 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:58 am to
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a lot of athletes


What do you define as "a lot"? Seems pretty vague.

Also, didn't Zepps prove on Rogan that there is a substantially higher threat from myocarditis from catching covid than from the vaccine itself.

LINK

The Nature medical journal just published a peer-reviewed article on this.

LINK
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 9:59 am to
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The CDC never denied that heart issues were a side effect of the vaccines..


Do you ever feel shame for being so disingenuous?
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
23886 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:01 am to
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I have never denied that the vaccines can cause heart issues (neither did the CDC) and the leading cause of myocarditis is viral infection.


These motherf*cking c*cksuckers are SO F*CKING PREDICTABLE.

Every f*cking time you and your demented f*cking ilk in government and the media claimed that these poisons were perfectly SAFE AND EFFECTIVE, you were denying ALL the potential side effects that have been known almost from the very f*cking beginning.

But, YOU do what SCUM AND FILTH always do -- put your head up your a$$ while claiming that you never said what you actual said and promoted.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 10:03 am
Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
17658 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:01 am to
Does anyone have links to some of the stories or quotes from a while back where they denied myocarditis being an issue?

Would love to have handy for discussion purposes.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124846 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:03 am to
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The CDC never denied that heart issues were a side effect of the vaccines..


The CDC did not “discover” the heart inflammation issues. The DOD did. Why?

If you’re honest, you know. But you haven’t shown much capability for that during the entire discussion.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
92808 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:05 am to
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FACT


Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
71847 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:06 am to
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lower the risk of heart inflammation for immunocompromised people


One of two things has to be true:

(A) there’s a whole lot of “immunocompromised” young people, including world class athletes, than we knew about

(B) the vaccine can and does cause heart inflammation in more than just immunocompromised people.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:06 am to
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Does anyone have links to some of the stories or quotes from a while back where they denied myocarditis being an issue?


Nope because the CDC never denied it.
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:08 am to
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But you haven’t shown much capability for that during the entire discussion.




Did the CDC ever deny that heart issues were a side effect of the vaccines?
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
28276 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:10 am to
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FACT



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Also, didn't Zepps prove on Rogan that there is a substantially higher threat from myocarditis from catching covid than from the vaccine itself.


Was this person lying as well?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
124846 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:11 am to
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Nope because the CDC never denied it.


When did the CDC know about the risk of pericarditis and myocarditis with Covid 19 vaccines?

When did they announce the risk?
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179071 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:11 am to
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Nope because the CDC never denied it.





The language the CDC used until recently was they were "investigating the reports"

They never outright denied it but they were very deceptive about it and now it is looking like they are finally admitting it 100%. They are only doing so because they can no longer contain it and put it off by "investigating" it.
Posted by PurpleandGeauld
Florence, TX
Member since Oct 2013
5426 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:14 am to
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BS. You mean the people who's employers said get the jab or get fired are to blame?


Yes

Wow. So you think all the people who were terminated because they refused to take poison are untitled to nothing?

quote:
You mean the government, media outlets, CDC, Fauci, other doctors/medical "experts", who knowingly, falsely, reported the jab as safe, or worse mandated the jab are NOT to blame?
None of those entities physically forced someone to get vaccinated.

Several governments (Fed and some state) applied mandates. Further, there are verified reports of school children who were FORCIBLY vaccinated against parents wishes.

Everybody looking for a handout these days, even conservatives. I'm not responsible for your choices. As a taxpayer, I don't want any settlements from the government. If you want to go after private business, then have at it.



You are such a dumbass. The government, the CDC/other medical agencies are ABSOLUTELY responsible and NEED to be held liable. Doctors who came out against the jab were repeatedly threatened, some lost licenses to practice, some were terminated, military were discharged, etc, etc. All those people are entitled to damages.

But to me that isn't nearly enough. MANY people need prison time for what they did to the American people.
Posted by MMauler
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Member since Jun 2013
23886 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:15 am to
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(A) there’s a whole lot of “immunocompromised” young people, including world class athletes, than we knew about


I've been wondering why do the heart issues seem to affect soccer players more than any other athletes?

At first, I came to believe that it's because they put their hearts at a much greater stress level because they are running "all out" faster at much longer distance than most other athletes. They might have to run almost 100 yard and then turn around and run another 100 yards without much of a break. Basketball players run 40 feet then take a break and typically set up for a play. Football players typically run a play and then huddle up (rest) for another play. Baseball players typically run all out for at most 270 feet (triple) and then take a long break.

The only flaw there is long distance runners. Then again, long distance runners never truly run all out until the last 100-200 yards. But, it does seem like they would be suffering heart issues in similar numbers to soccer players.

When they do finally decide to investigate this phenomenon, I'm guessing that they will come to the conclusion that it does involve the stress put on their hearts by running all-out for greater periods of time vis-à-vis other athletes.
This post was edited on 2/7/22 at 10:18 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179071 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:16 am to
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When did the CDC know about the risk of pericarditis and myocarditis with Covid 19 vaccines?



They had reports as far back as April that I can find and they said they were still investigating it.

They didn't even begin to admit it with an update on their site until November 2021 though it was still vague.

Now it appears, with the news in the OP, they are finally outright admitting it.

To say they have been upfront about it is being obtuse at best or just outright lying.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
11726 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:18 am to
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Do you ever feel shame for being so disingenuous?


Ask him about his 32” waist.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 2/7/22 at 10:19 am to
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Did the CDC ever deny that heart issues were a side effect of the vaccines?


So fricking dishonest.

They damned sure didn't acknowledge that they were bad enough to consider making changes to their regimen AND, anyone who did assert that got their asses banned for misinformation and I don't recall the CDC speaking up on that you fricking dishonest piece of shite.
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