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re: CDC Held a Secret Meeting after a Study showed the Hepatitis B Vaccine was Causing Autism

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Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
14970 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:13 pm to
when you play the fallout series, you see a lot of similarities between our corporations, and valut tec and the companies in the game.

super fricking scummy, they care nothing about humanity, only about $$$
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
11847 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:26 pm to
Pediatricians aren’t split into “good ones” and “bad ones” on vaccines. They’re navigating a range of defensible responses shaped by real constraints. Professional guidance (e.g. AAP/AMA) explicitly allows multiple approaches - continued engagement, risk-mitigating accommodations, declining new patients, or yes, eventual dismissal - depending on context. The key drivers are practical and ethical variables like local access to care, the presence of vulnerable patients, outbreak risk, clinic capacity, and the clinician’s judgment about what best protects this child & others, etc.. So when you see different practices handling unvaccinated kids differently, that’s not chaos, it’s the predictable result of applying shared principles under very different conditions.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79982 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:02 pm to
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Why do many pediatricians refuse to treat children who refuse to vax their children? They make a huge profit from big pharma
Pediatricians make $225,000 on average. They aren't getting anything from pharma.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:04 pm to
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Why do many pediatricians refuse to treat children who refuse to vax their children? They make a huge profit from big pharma to keep a large percentage of their clients fully vaxed. It's all about the $$$

Useful idiot. Board is infested with them now.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:05 pm to
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Pediatricians make $225,000 on average. They aren't getting anything from pharma.

It’s crazy how many posters here think that most doctors are just getting these random Big Pharma direct deposits every two weeks
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21729 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:06 pm to
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They aren't getting anything from pharma.


They DO get incentives for higher vaccination compliance rates.

quote:

Incentives for pediatric practices to boost vaccination rates include financial rewards (bonuses, value-based payments for hitting benchmarks, grants), operational support (staffing for vaccine coordination), and system-based nudges (EMR alerts).

Practices benefit from monetary rewards linked to performance, reduced administrative burden through dedicated staff, and improved patient care by ensuring timely immunizations, ultimately leading to healthier communities, not just profit.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79982 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:12 pm to
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They DO get incentives for higher vaccination compliance rates
From pharma? Because that's what I was posting about.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79982 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:13 pm to
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It’s crazy how many posters here think that most doctors are just getting these random Big Pharma direct deposits every two weeks
They cant even hand y'all chintzy pens anymore.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:14 pm to
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They DO get incentives for higher vaccination compliance rates.



Is there any aspect of medicine you don't seem to try to intentionally misunderstand?
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
21729 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:14 pm to
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From pharma? Because that's what I was posting about.


Incentives are incentives. Doesn’t matter where it's coming from, but to the fact pediatricians do, in fact, receive them.

To answer your question- I doubt pharma funds these incentives directly, but I don't actually know.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:15 pm to
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It’s crazy how many posters here think that most doctors are just getting these random Big Pharma direct deposits every two weeks



I like flirting with the cute pharma reps and I also like it when they give us lunch.
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21729 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:17 pm to
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Is there any aspect of medicine you don't seem to try to intentionally misunderstand?


Do GPs get incentives for treating tennis elbow? Or testing hormone levels? Diagnosing UTIs?
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79982 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:22 pm to
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Incentives are incentives. Doesn’t matter where it's coming from, but to the fact pediatricians do, in fact, receive them
You arguing a point with me I never made.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39820 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:25 pm to
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Do GPs get incentives for treating tennis elbow? Or testing hormone levels? Diagnosing UTIs?



Another disingenuous question. You can have a contract that incentivizes preventative health measures, of which immunization status is a part of, if, for example, a practice uses something like the Healthcare Effectiveness Data and Information Set as a performance enhancement tool.

Whether you like it or not, immunizations are part and parcel of a cogent preventative health approach. That some physicians accept contracts which might use value-based models isn't really meaningful to anything.
Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:25 pm to
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Do GPs get incentives for treating tennis elbow? Or testing hormone levels? Diagnosing UTIs?

Someone needs to look up MIPS
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21729 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:28 pm to
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Someone needs to look up MIPS


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Clinicians report performance data (quality, improvement, interoperability, cost) to receive payment adjustments for Medicare Part B services.


wtf does MIPS have to do with tennis elbow?
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
89786 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:31 pm to
Of course the doctors serve their masters over their patients.


They made this clear during Covid.


Posted by onmymedicalgrind
Nunya
Member since Dec 2012
12182 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:35 pm to
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wtf does MIPS have to do with tennis elbow?

You really don’t understand the analogy

No GPs probably don’t receive “incentives” when treating a relatively uncommon primary care diagnosis. Just like pediatricians.

Sally, think harder.
Posted by kingfish225
Member since Dec 2013
585 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:36 pm to
I swear to god the amount of stupid on this site is a disgrace
Posted by SallysHuman
Lady Palmetto Bug
Member since Jan 2025
21729 posts
Posted on 1/14/26 at 6:37 pm to
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You really don’t understand the analogy


Reporting performance isn't the same as coercing patient behavior.

Medicare isn't all healthcare.
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