- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: CDC Held a Secret Meeting after a Study showed the Hepatitis B Vaccine was Causing Autism
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:10 pm to SallysHuman
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:10 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
How long did it take to figure out xrays and lead exposure?
For X-Rays, within months of the development of the technology.
For lead, I believe the Nicander of Colophon described the symptoms of lead exposure in ancient Greece. Maybe Hippocrates as well.
1
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:15 pm to Vacherie Saint
quote:
And before you get yourself riled up, I'm not necessarily questioning the science. I'm questioning the motivations behind the multi-billion dollar bureaucracy that funds the science.
No dude..Im cool with folks questioning these things b/c you are right...profit motives absolutely can play a role in distorting research.
quote:
There are over 165 studies that have focused on Thimerosal, an organic-mercury (Hg) based compound, used as a preservative in many childhood vaccines, and found it to be harmful. Of these, 16 were conducted to specifically examine the effects of Thimerosal on human infants or children with reported outcomes of death; acrodynia; poisoning; allergic reaction; malformations; auto-immune reaction; Well’s syndrome; developmental delay; and neurodevelopmental disorders, including tics, speech delay, language delay, attention deficit disorder, and autism (16 studies).
That claim comes from a 2014 review article published in BioMed Research International by Brian Hooker and colleagues. I m working now so I dont have time to look up the issues with that article/research or Hooker's conflict of interest but you can Google it yourself and draw your own conclusions. There was many and Hooker had profit motive on his side as well.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:16 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
You can't claim definitively what doesn’t cause or contribute to something unless you can prove what does.
Let’s put it this way. There has been study after study after study exploring the link between autism and vaccines. No link. No association. The scientific data does not show any causal link or association at all between vaccines and autism. All of this started more than two decades ago, roughly when someone faked the data and published a bunk study.
They were a very small number of studies that showed an initial association. However, when other variables were controlled, the association disappeared.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:20 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
So... the causes or contributors to SIDS, autism, ADHD, allergies, etc... are a mystery
They are not mysteries at all. Maybe to a layperson, but the last landmark paper pointed to low levels of the enzyme butyrylcholinesterase. In addition, the hypothesis that SIDS was linked to some issue in the nervous system was proposed quite earlier. As far as allergies, we know quite a lot about them, and we classify hypersensitivities into four broad categories. Many of the are linked to what is called HLA serotypes and involve dysregulation of the immune response. HLA serotypes are genetically determined.
As far as autism and ADHD, that would require a voluminous explanation but given the consistency of presentation across cultures, it hints at one thing and one thing specifically. That thing is not vaccines.
You appear to confuse the fact that many things have extremely complicated answers with 'not having answers.' Those are not the same thing.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:22 pm to SallysHuman
Straight out of a freshman level philosophy class 
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:24 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
So... the causes or contributors to SIDS, autism, ADHD, allergies, etc... are a mystery, but we can confidently state that cumulative doses of adjuvants and contaminants in a whole array of products intended for infants ABSOLUTELY has nothing to do with chronic conditions?
Go further.
Using your logic, we can’t rule out that your postings on TD may be culpable as well! I mean….how do we know?!???
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:24 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
For X-Rays, within months of the development of the technology.
Yet it took until the 1970s to begin to explore patient dosing.
As for lead..
quote:
The understanding of lead exposure limits has evolved from recognizing severe poisoning to acknowledging harm at much lower levels, with the CDC progressively lowering its blood lead reference value (BLRV) for children from 60 µg/dL (pre-1970s) to 40 (1970s), 30 (1970s), 25 (1980s), 10 (1990s), 5 (2012), and finally 3.5 µg/dL (2021), driven by research showing no safe threshold and increasing harm from lower exposures, shifting focus to primary prevention.
Science evolves.
Expecting vaccine science, safety and regulations to be fully understood, settled and set is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:30 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
Yet it took until the 1970s to begin to explore patient dosing.
Well you didn't ask about that, did you? It seems dishonest to try to move the goalposts here, doesn't it? I mean, it is standard for how you talk about things, but again, dishonest.
quote:
Science evolves.
Expecting vaccine science, safety and regulations to be fully understood, settled and set is ridiculous.
And the reality is that the vast majority of laypeople, yourself included, are not equipped to deal with the work that comes with the 'evolution of science.' And you should read the last sentence of the part you quoted again and think carefully about it before you respond.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:34 pm to crazy4lsu
quote:
And the reality is that the vast majority of laypeople, yourself included, are not equipped to deal with the work that comes with the 'evolution of science.'
Are you? Are you a doctor or are you a scientist? Are you specialized in vaccinology? That's like asking the oil change guy about my vehicle's software problem. Or the doc-in-a-box to fill my tooth.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:42 pm to SallysHuman
quote:
Are you? Are you a doctor or are you a scientist? Are you specialized in vaccinology? That's like asking the oil change guy about my vehicle's software problem. Or the doc-in-a-box to fill my tooth.
Yes, I am exceedingly well-educated on topics as they relate to human immune function as well as diseases from insults to the human immune system.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:44 pm to crazy4lsu
So you're a scientist or vaccinologist?
Good to know.
Good to know.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 4:50 pm to SallysHuman
I suspect that nothing in my education will convince you to stop taking really idiotic positions though. Good talk.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:02 pm to Jake88
Why do many pediatricians refuse to treat children who refuse to vax their children? They make a huge profit from big pharma to keep a large percentage of their clients fully vaxed. It's all about the $$$
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:06 pm to Ailsa
They'd make much more money treating vaccine-preventable diseases than by vaccinating kids which they do anyway because vaccines prevent disease in those who get vaccines and in those who aren't able to be vaccinated due to age/immaturity or health condition.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:08 pm to Ailsa
quote:
Why do many pediatricians refuse to treat children who refuse to vax their children?
To strong arm compliance.
You'd think if they cared about the health and wellbeing of these children, they'd be especially interested in caring for such a vulnerable population.
In my area, in the early aughts, only one pediatric group would see unvaxxed kids- but even they would find other reasons to exclude you from their practice. We were ultimately booted for refusing guidance on cow's milk when I was still breastfeeding.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:10 pm to SallysHuman
They pose risk to kids who are too young/sick to be vaccinated. Have you seen measles complications in an immunocompromised child?
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:12 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
They pose risk to kids who are too young/sick to be vaccinated.
So does the greater public.
Refusal of care is for non compliance.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:12 pm to RummelTiger
quote:
Not that $12.36B is noty big...but it's not $123.6B. If someone is gonna X that, then they should get the numbers right...
The absolute ONLY reason to give this to children is to make money. Unless you are talking about < 1 % of the mothers who are carrying babies that have it.
Other than that it's strictly administered at that age to make money only.
In fact it's the only way that vaccine makes money since most people don't have butt sex and use IV needles.
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:13 pm to Ailsa
I am so happy TRUMP signed RFK to that position.....his passion is unmatched!
Posted on 1/14/26 at 5:13 pm to TigerDoc
quote:
TigerDoc
Like clockwork
Page 4 of 6
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News