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CDC Admits It Can't Back Claim That Vaccines Don't Cause Variants
Posted on 5/14/22 at 6:59 am
Posted on 5/14/22 at 6:59 am
Uh oh. The CDC wouldn't make claims it couldn't document, would it? 
ZeroHedge
ZeroHedge
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The CDC’s website calls it a myth that the vaccines cause variants.
“FACT: COVID-19 vaccines do not create or cause variants of the virus that causes COVID-19. Instead, COVID-19 vaccines can help prevent new variants from emerging,” the website states.
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The Informed Consent Action Network (ICAN), a nonprofit, asked the CDC in Freedom of Information Act requests for documentation supporting the claim.
In one request, the group asked for “All documents sufficient to support that COVID-19 vaccines do not create or cause variants of the virus that causes COVID-19.”
Another requested “All documents sufficient to support that the immunity conferred by COVID-19 vaccines does not contribute to virus evolution and the emergence of variants.”
The CDC has now responded to both requests, saying a search “found no records responsive” to them.
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If the CDC is making declaratory statements, the agency should have documents supporting them, Aaron Siri, an attorney representing ICAN, told The Epoch Times.
The responses are “very troubling,” Siri said. “I thought the CDC was a data-driven organization, that they made their decisions based on the studies and the science and the data.”
The CDC did not respond to a request for comment.
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Remove the language or provide the evidence,” he said. “There obviously are going to be instances where recommendations from the CDC might prove helpful or useful. And I think they do a disservice to everybody by hurting their own credibility by making statements that they either don’t have support or won’t produce the support for.”
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:01 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:02 am to Perfect Circle
“However, it’s more important than ever to get you and your children vaccinated” - CDC
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:02 am to Perfect Circle
I'm totally shocked about this.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 7:06 am to Grim
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Go back to bed.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:12 am to Perfect Circle
In order to say that vaccines cause variants it is up to those making the assertion to prove that they do, not for those opposed to prove that they don’t. Otherwise we could assert that posting on tigerdroppings causes variants and lord it over you that you can’t prove otherwise.
Anyway it is very imprecise to say that vaccines cause variants. What they do is to suppress most variants. This means that if there is a variant that is uninhibited by vaccines that variant will probably thrive simply because the vaccine has mowed down its competitors. In that case, the vaccine didn’t create any variants, it just favored one over others.
Anyway it is very imprecise to say that vaccines cause variants. What they do is to suppress most variants. This means that if there is a variant that is uninhibited by vaccines that variant will probably thrive simply because the vaccine has mowed down its competitors. In that case, the vaccine didn’t create any variants, it just favored one over others.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 8:15 am
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:17 am to Grim
Aren’t you due for your quadtriple dose of the vax?!
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:18 am to Perfect Circle
Thats why purebloods are the better people
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:19 am to Perfect Circle
How are they still allowed to call it a vaccine. It doesn’t stop anyone from getting covid. Or as I call it…. The flu.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:28 am to Perfect Circle
Some of us argued this from the beginning.
Leaky vaccines do more harm than good.
Leaky vaccines do more harm than good.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:31 am to Grim
Why are you posting a cartoon version of yourself practicing giving BJs (plural)?
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:32 am to Perfect Circle
Wasn’t delta traced back to an aids patient who had taken the vaccine? I’m not saying it’s proof one way or the other but I always found it funny they blamed the unvaccinated on variants with that evidence in hand.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:35 am to Penrod
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In order to say that vaccines cause variants it is up to those making the assertion to prove that they do, not for those opposed to prove that they don’t.
Then CDC shouldn't be declaring that they don't.
They've made the definitive statement, apparently without any data or studies to support the statement.
Applying your logic, it is the CDC's burden.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:38 am to Penrod
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Anyway it is very imprecise to say that vaccines cause variants. What they do is to suppress most variants. This means that if there is a variant that is uninhibited by vaccines that variant will probably thrive simply because the vaccine has mowed down its competitors. In that case, the vaccine didn’t create any variants, it just favored one over others.
You are an idiot. That is exactly the assertion of how vaccines can cause variants.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:40 am to Penrod
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In order to say that vaccines cause variants it is up to those making the assertion to prove that they do
No, the watchdog group is simply responding to the CDC’s assertion that vaccines prevent variants. The burden is on the CDC to prove that.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:42 am to Penrod
Wrong answer libtard, when you try and make something mandatory for the whole world you need to provide data saying it doesn't cause variants because billions of people are going to be affected. When plenty of data has shown the more vaxxed a country is the higher the positive and death rate are. You fricking libs need to pull your common sense out of your back pockets.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:44 am to Penrod
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This means that if there is a variant that is uninhibited by vaccines that variant will probably thrive simply because the vaccine has mowed down its competitors. In that case, the vaccine didn’t create any variants, it just favored one over others.
What if it’s thriving because the vaccinated don’t have the same depth of natural immunity as the unvaccinated?
I don’t have any proof, much like the CDC it seems, hence I pose it as a question not a statement. But when omnicron was going around it sure seemed like it was mainly the vaccinated around the workplace having to take off after testing positive.
This post was edited on 5/14/22 at 8:59 am
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:26 am to Grim
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:31 am to Perfect Circle
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:34 am to Penrod
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In order to say that vaccines cause variants it is up to those making the assertion to prove that they do, not for those opposed to prove that they don’t
The cdc is the one making the assertion that needs to be proven here moron.
You continue to prove you are the poster with the largest gap between perceived intelligence and actual intelligence.
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