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Cato: What Ukraine Tells Us About Trump

Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:22 pm
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33432 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:22 pm
Where is this paragraph off base:

quote:

Indeed, Trump’s attempt to pressure Ukraine was driven in part by a stream of debunked conspiracy theories circulating on the fringes of the right-wing online media. One such theory alleges that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 elections on behalf of the Clinton campaign. Another claims that Vice President Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire its prosecutor in order to relieve his son, who was then on the board of a Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings, of scrutiny for corruption (in fact, the prosecutor was failing to go after corruption, the investigation into Burisma had gone dormant, and Ukraine’s current top prosecutors says publicly that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the Bidens).


LINK
Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:23 pm to
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Indeed, Trump’s attempt to pressure Ukraine

First line is a lie lol

Ukraine's President said he wasn't pressured at all

L.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:25 pm to
If there's nothing to find, nothing will be found.

Mueller got 2.5 years to peruse through everyone's garbage undeterred.

Let Barr have his turn.
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 6:26 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:25 pm to
Why do you link Cato as if it is some pro trump site they had lots of credibility?

It is a libertarian think tank that hates trump and always has


I like Cato a lot, but come on
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 6:29 pm
Posted by themunch
Earth. maybe
Member since Jan 2007
64666 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

was driven in part by a stream of debunked conspiracy theories circulating on the fringes of the right-wing online media


fact checked as false
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:26 pm to
quote:

here is this paragraph off base:


Indeed, Trump’s attempt to pressure Ukraine ...

The premise is flawed, imo.

Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
34105 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:26 pm to
Total bullshite, and poorly written.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:28 pm to
Cato
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:28 pm to
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Big Scrub TX


You are obviously unhinged and deranged. You poor pathetic creature.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4902 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:29 pm to
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First line is a lie


Withholds money for defense against a country that has already annexed a pice of your country. “Do us a favor.”

No pressure there.

Posted by Bunyan
He/Him
Member since Oct 2016
20828 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:30 pm to
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No pressure there.

Correct. As stated by Ukraine's President
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:30 pm to
That's for the voters to decide.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:31 pm to
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Withholds money for defense against a country that has already annexed a pice of your country. “Do us a favor.”


That only exists in your mind.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
69306 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:31 pm to
quote:

Do us a favor.”



Referred to cooperating with a legitimate DOJ probe of Russia investigation origins


Why are you outright lying about the transcript

Biden didn’t come up until 500 words after the word “favor”
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4902 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:31 pm to
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As stated by Ukraine's President


Who is still beholden to Trump to help defend his country from further annexations. You expect him to do or say anything to hurt Trump?
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:32 pm to
quote:

Ukraine’s current top prosecutors says publicly that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the Bidens).


Might not be any wrongdoings as far as the way Ukraine does their business but it sure as hell is very questionable as to the way we do our business.
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:33 pm to
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Who is still beholden to Trump to help


Again...that only exists in your mind.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
16303 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:33 pm to
Who was president when those annexations began? What did the Ukraine not do for Obama for him to let it happen?
This post was edited on 10/3/19 at 6:34 pm
Posted by Scruffy
Kansas City
Member since Jul 2011
72129 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:33 pm to
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Withholds money for defense against a country that has already annexed a pice of your country. “Do us a favor.”

No pressure there.
NYTs reported that Ukraine had no idea about the withheld funds until 1 mo after the call.
Posted by victoire sécurisé
Member since Nov 2012
4902 posts
Posted on 10/3/19 at 6:33 pm to
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sure as hell is very questionable as to the way we do our business.


That’s something everyone can agree on.
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