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Big Scrub TX
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Cato: What Ukraine Tells Us About Trump
Where is this paragraph off base:

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Indeed, Trump’s attempt to pressure Ukraine was driven in part by a stream of debunked conspiracy theories circulating on the fringes of the right-wing online media. One such theory alleges that Ukraine, not Russia, interfered in the 2016 elections on behalf of the Clinton campaign. Another claims that Vice President Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to fire its prosecutor in order to relieve his son, who was then on the board of a Ukrainian company Burisma Holdings, of scrutiny for corruption (in fact, the prosecutor was failing to go after corruption, the investigation into Burisma had gone dormant, and Ukraine’s current top prosecutors says publicly that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the Bidens).


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Indeed, Trump’s attempt to pressure Ukraine

First line is a lie lol

Ukraine's President said he wasn't pressured at all

L.


timdonaghyswhistle
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re: Cato: What Ukraine Tells Us About Trump
If there's nothing to find, nothing will be found.

Mueller got 2.5 years to peruse through everyone's garbage undeterred.

Let Barr have his turn.
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HailHailtoMichigan!
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re: Cato: What Ukraine Tells Us About Trump
Why do you link Cato as if it is some pro trump site they had lots of credibility?

It is a libertarian think tank that hates trump and always has


I like Cato a lot, but come on
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was driven in part by a stream of debunked conspiracy theories circulating on the fringes of the right-wing online media


fact checked as false


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here is this paragraph off base:


Indeed, Trump’s attempt to pressure Ukraine ...

The premise is flawed, imo.



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OchoDedos
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Total bullshite, and poorly written.


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Cato


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Big Scrub TX


You are obviously unhinged and deranged. You poor pathetic creature.


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victoire sécurisé
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re: Cato: What Ukraine Tells Us About Trump
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First line is a lie


Withholds money for defense against a country that has already annexed a pice of your country. “Do us a favor.”

No pressure there.



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Bunyan
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No pressure there.

Correct. As stated by Ukraine's President


timdonaghyswhistle
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That's for the voters to decide.


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Dale51
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Withholds money for defense against a country that has already annexed a pice of your country. “Do us a favor.”


That only exists in your mind.


HailHailtoMichigan!
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Do us a favor.”



Referred to cooperating with a legitimate DOJ probe of Russia investigation origins


Why are you outright lying about the transcript

Biden didn’t come up until 500 words after the word “favor”


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victoire sécurisé
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re: Cato: What Ukraine Tells Us About Trump
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As stated by Ukraine's President


Who is still beholden to Trump to help defend his country from further annexations. You expect him to do or say anything to hurt Trump?


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Ukraine’s current top prosecutors says publicly that there is no evidence of wrongdoing on the part of the Bidens).


Might not be any wrongdoings as far as the way Ukraine does their business but it sure as hell is very questionable as to the way we do our business.


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Who is still beholden to Trump to help


Again...that only exists in your mind.


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timdonaghyswhistle
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Who was president when those annexations began? What did the Ukraine not do for Obama for him to let it happen?
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Scruffy
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Withholds money for defense against a country that has already annexed a pice of your country. “Do us a favor.”

No pressure there.
NYTs reported that Ukraine had no idea about the withheld funds until 1 mo after the call.


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victoire sécurisé
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sure as hell is very questionable as to the way we do our business.


That’s something everyone can agree on.


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