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re: Catherine Austin Fitts says our Government has been building entire Underground Cities

Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:47 pm to
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:47 pm to
You're still waiting for those big reveals that were certainly about to happen for the last 15 years. Elizondo and Greer turned out to be fools. It's all a huge waste of your time.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:48 pm to
2017

https://www.tigerdroppings.com/rant/politics/ny-times-pentagons-ufo-program---aerospace-esoteric-quantum-mechanics-future/74223344/

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NY Times: Pentagon’s UFO Program - aerospace/esoteric/quantum mechanics/future Posted by ThinePreparedAni 12/16/17 at 4:25 pm


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Earlier this year, a Michigan State University economist, working with graduate students and a former government official, found $21 trillion in unauthorized spending in the departments of Defense and Housing and Urban Development for the years 1998-2015. The work of Mark Skidmore and his team, which included digging into government websites and repeated queries to U.S. agencies that went unanswered, coincided with the Office of Inspector General, at one point, disabling the links to all key documents showing the unsupported spending. (Luckily, the researchers downloaded and stored the documents.) Now, the Department of Defense has announced it will conduct the first department-wide, independent financial audit in its history (read the Dec. 7 announcement here). The Defense Department did not say specifically what led to the audit. But the announcement came four days after Skidmore discussed his team’s findings on USAWatchdog, a news outlet run by former CNN and ABC News correspondent Greg Hunter.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:53 pm to
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You're still waiting for those big reveals that were certainly about to happen for the last 15 years


Like open testimony in Congressional Hearings today stating that we have crash retrieval and reverse engineering programs that were designed to be more secure than the Manhattan Project by Presidential orders (and be beyond Congressional oversight)

Nothing is happening because you / we live in a controlled reality with classified science and incomplete datasets that hinders sense making (parallel reality)
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 10:55 pm
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 10:55 pm to
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Nothing is happening because
There are no aliens or interdimensional beings present on Earth. It's all wishful fantasy.
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:04 pm to
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There are no aliens or interdimensional beings present on Earth.


Lazy thinking

It is not likely just one thing. Unlikely to be from other planets (I concur). Interdimensional remains a consideration as they can be both here and there (some have foretold that their greatest tricks are making you think that they don’t exist)

You leave out the possibility of ultraterrestrial or remnant AI technology from predecessor civilizations that have gone extinct or underground/underwater
Posted by Jake88
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:08 pm to
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Lazy thinking
Nope. Everyone of these people is a fraud. Corbell as well.

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You leave out the possibility of ultraterrestrial or remnant AI technology from predecessor civilizations that have gone extinct or underground/underwater
More foolishness. Not aliens? Well, now let's come up with some other angle one can scam a bunch of people with. Interdinensional? No. Let's move on to pre-existing civilizations, and on and on and on. Superman vs The Molemen.
This post was edited on 5/1/25 at 11:09 pm
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/1/25 at 11:14 pm to
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Nope. Everyone of these people is a fraud.


Again, dismissive mental shortcuts. Everyone is just a fraud, Including high-level whistleblowers, who had verified positions in government (who come out and stated that these programs are real)

Video of his congressional testimony embedded at the link

https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1kcn5iu/eric_davis_lays_out_the_classification_of_crash/

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Eric Davis lays out the classification of crash retrievals "more sensitive than the Manhattan Project" how it's hidden from congressional oversight and how his involvement led to be included in Grusch's whisleblower complaint.
Posted by ApexTiger
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 4:52 am to
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They can't even build a train station. They aren't building underground cities.


Correct!!

We would know we would be able to have satellite images seeing activity and I’ve never seen that reported

To the post above correct in California, they can’t build dams or roads. Our government can’t fix traffic. They are not building underground cities.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 6:56 am to
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Again, dismissive mental shortcuts. Everyone is just a fraud, Including high-level whistleblowers, who had verified positions in government (who come out and stated that these programs are real)

You realize they're just the latest whistleblowers promoting the new theories he was speaking of to replace old theories that have been disproven (and discarded by the community), who also had the same type of whistleblowers offer the same evidence, right?

When grifters declared Bigfoot an interdimensional being solely because getting photos of it was too hard, the shark was jumped. That was about 20 years ago.
Posted by NOLAManBlog
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 7:07 am to
Elon is obsessed with terraforming Mars and creating underground tunnels
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 7:10 am to
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or remnant AI technology from predecessor civilizations

There has never been any evidence of an advanced predecessor civilization

We have some evidence of predecessor civilizations that are primitive, and are finding older primitive civilizations that somewhat rewrite our history books.

Stone structures and rudimentary tools do not denote a civilization producing AI.
Posted by tgdawg68
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 7:37 am to
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Why? What about this thread warrants its being stickied?


Nothing! It is an eye opener though. Amazing the number of gullible people and the depth of their gullible-ness.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:32 am to
I appreciate you posting that testimony but there is absolutely nothing compelling in it. It's vague and could have been the testimony of any UAP enthusiast. And, did he say he worked for Bigelow? If he did, it makes me even less inclined to give any weight to what he says as that group desperately wants there to be unconventional explanations to UAPs.
Posted by cajunangelle
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:45 am to
The media finally reported on all of the bunkers for govt big wigs. Have they moved on to the underground cities?
Posted by EphesianArmor
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 9:58 am to
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There has never been any evidence of an advanced predecessor civilization


There is voluminous evidence of an advanced predecessor civilization


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We have some evidence of predecessor civilizations that are primitive,

and are finding older primitive civilizations that somewhat rewrite our history books.


You do lead a very sheltered, insular intellectual life apparently. Believe it or not Wikipedia and AI "search" are not exactly real sources of extended knowledge.



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Stone structures and rudimentary tools do not denote a civilization producing AI.




Nice. Three subjects that have absolutely ZERO relation to one another. It's ok to admit your area of expertise lies elsewhere.
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:07 am to
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The media finally reported on all of the bunkers for govt big wigs. Have they moved on to the underground cities?


They are now to the point of mocking us at every turn with pseudo-truth. That way they have satisfied their "Karma" terms.

"Report" from the MSM on the deep grand luxury underground metropolises is scheduled soon. Those left at CNN / FNC will report they exist the day Operation: Zombies and Operation: Georgia Guidestones is activated.
Posted by EphesianArmor
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 10:22 am to
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Interdimensional remains a consideration as they can be both here and there (some have foretold that their greatest tricks are making you think that they don’t exist)


You are referring to Demons and the spiritual realm which we cannot see, right?

Yes, it is said that "Satan's greatest trick" is in making people believe he doesn't exist.

Ironic that satanists, witches, "the Illuminated", Kabbalists, and magicians ALL recognize "inter dimensional" space, powers and entities. This world is electric and magnetic. Light "Auras" are real and can be detected.

This dimension, space and power is referred to by Jesus Christ Himself as well as the Apostles.

The term "Ruler of the Power of the Air" is a designation found in the New Testament, referring to the spiritual entity that exerts influence over the world. This title is most notably mentioned in Ephesians 2:2, where the Apostle Paul writes, "in which you used to walk when you conformed to the ways of this world and of the ruler of the power of the air, the spirit who is now at work in the sons of disobedience" ; The concept of Satan as a ruler is consistent with other biblical passages. In John 12:31 Jesus refers to Satan as the "prince of this world"

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 11:06 am to
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There is voluminous evidence of an advanced predecessor civilization

What evidence?

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Believe it or not Wikipedia and AI "search" are not exactly real sources of extended knowledge.



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Three subjects that have absolutely ZERO relation to one another.

Where is the evidence of AI from predecessor civilizations?
Posted by ThinePreparedAni
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:21 pm to
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Where is the evidence of AI from predecessor civilizations?


The speculation is that we’re seeing it in our skies. The predecessor civilization itself is likely currently being recycled in earth’s crust as we speak (as will ours). Y’all really think we live in “2025“. That perspective itself is a mutually accepted psyop.

The best article on this that I’ve come across is below:

Jake will be here a second to tell you that this academician is a loon/fraud…

https://www.bernardokastrup.com/2024/01/uaps-and-non-human-intelligence-what-is.html?m=1

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IF TERRESTRIAL BUT NOT HUMAN, THEN WHO? The idea that the intelligence behind the UAPs is terrestrial and ancient is itself not new. Dr. Hal Puthoff calls it the “ultra-terrestrial” hypothesis. He raises the possibility that remnants of a pre-Diluvial high-tech human civilisation—think of the Atlantis myth—may have survived at the end of the last ice age and remain active today, though discreet in their activities. The problem with this hypothesis is that any truly high-tech civilisation—unless it has moved underground very early, which may not be plausible due to difficulties related to the space required for industrial and logistical infrastructure, difficulties with waste management and pollution, etc.—leaves vast and long-lasting footprints on the terrain and environment, such as mining holes, landfills, urban infrastructure, artificial pollutants such as microplastics, etc. These footprints, though degraded, would have remained conspicuous enough over the period of only several thousand years since the last ice age. Yet, we find no such traces predating our own civilisation.

Because high technology development requires—at least at first—extensive industrial infrastructure, any ancient civilisation capable of technology as advanced as that in UAPs will almost inevitably have had to go through steps of industrialization and resource extraction analogous to ours, and then some. It will have had to go through phases of urbanization, mining of metals and burning of hydrocarbons, the construction of vast industrial parks, logistical/transport infrastructure, and so on. If the intelligence behind UAPs is terrestrial, it will thus need to be ancient enough for the associated footprints to have been almost completely erased by natural weather and geological processes. Yet, it will also need to be recent enough to already have had access to fossil hydrocarbons to fuel the early stages of its industrialization process. Are these seemingly conflicting constraints reconcilable? They are, as per the so-called “Silurian Hypothesis” first proposed by Gavin Schmidt and Adam Frank in a 2018 paper on the International Journal of Astrobiology. The idea is as follows: our planet has existed for about 4.5 billion years, with life on it for about 4 billion years. The genus Homo, to which we belong, has been around for less than 3 million of those 4 billion years; the blink of an eye in geological terms. And modern humans—Homo sapiens—for just 2 or 3 hundred thousand years. There is, thus, plenty of time and opportunity for other non-human species to have arisen on Earth, developed to a level of technology far beyond ours (imagine where our own science and technology will be in a mere thousand more years, if we don’t kill ourselves before that), and then to have effectively vanished due to one or more of the myriad possible civilisation-ending cataclysms that could end our own (climate change/collapse, comet/asteroid impact, pandemics, solar storms, thermonuclear war, etc.).

Any sign of abandoned urban and industrial infrastructure is unlikely to survive a period of only a few million years, due to weather erosion. Synthesized chemicals, alloys and other compounds, technological artefacts, as well as terrain signatures such as mining holes, are ultimately unlikely to survive the constant recycling of the Earth’s crust through plate tectonics. What is now the Earth’s crust will eventually sink into the molten asthenosphere and mantel beneath, where it will be reforged, just to eventually re-emerge through volcanic activity as a brand-new crust. As a rough estimate, if we assume an average plate movement of a few centimeters per year, it could take only tens of millions of years for large swathes of the Earth's crust—especially the ocean crust but, to a more limited degree, also the continental crust—to be recycled in this manner. No conspicuous remnants of an ancient, technological, nonhuman civilization would likely survive all this.
Posted by BhamTigah
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Posted on 5/2/25 at 2:25 pm to
We've had underground Atlanta for decades, but I dare you to go there after dark.
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