re: Can't help but notice nearly all of our former COVID cheerleaders have gone complete ghost

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Nary an anchor or politician saying “hey, we are a nation of obesity. We have an obesity problem that is causing the hyper majority of Covid related issues. Getting boosted and wearing a mask DOES NOT PROTECT YOU if you are morbidly obese.

We repeat. Lose. Weight. Stop. Eating.

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Early in the literature, obesity and COVID were described as a twin pandemic, with that particular description published in a journal of metabolic health in March of 2020. That still doesn't explain the wide variety you can see in the quality of infection, which suggests the possibility that HLA serotypes possibly play a role, because in addition to being a virus that affects respiratory tissue, COVID is also a systemic disorder that thrives in the presence of prior endothelial injury and causes immune system dysregulation.

The scale of the obesity pandemic (which is exactly what it is) is gigantic, and the metabolic reality for most people is that they too will require pharmological aid in order to actually lose weight. At the population level, the dysregulation of metabolism that follows obesity mean that developing a population-wide solution is entirely different from the response one would get in an infectious disease scenario. Effectively, we are in a utterly new situation with respect to obesity and while individualizing lifestyle changes is incredibly important, I fail to see how even telling people at risk to lose weight would be an effective strategy in the setting of a highly infectious disease. Patients generally have poor compliance and that seems to be true of patients with diabetes.

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Perfection. Dude is such a clown.

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Damn, you are so mad.

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I don't think that is quite true.

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So yes, we know that obesity was one of the top comorbidities but it's not the sole reason.

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I mean….. “I don’t think we quite knew obesity was bad”

“Well yeah, we knew obesity was bad”



Also, of course obesity isn’t the “only” thing….. being obese nearly guarantees there are other issues….

But ya know what? You look at an obese person and you can say outright “okay I know that person has some health issues” whereas like you said, a skinny 42 year old soccer official isn’t obviously unhealthy - but might have something wrong we can’t just outright see.

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Ive never pushed for that.

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I didn’t say YOU pushed that. I said the MEDIA AND THE GOVERNMENT push that.

I said you defend that by saying “yeahhh but, like, they have on the website in paragraph 3 section a that obesity is bad… and like, I heard on the news one time that obesity is bad”

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What? When? I'm not who you are projecting me to be.

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I’m not projecting anything mon frère

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Maybe. What kind?

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I got high and made chocolate chip last night… but, as I was high, left them in too long so they are crispy. Not burnt, but I don’t like em crispy. So you can have them….

If you admit that the government and the media have been pushing the wrong message over the last 2 years and should instead be pushing for people to be healthy, active, and stop eating like shite. To stop glorifying obesity and end the “love your body” bullshite they push.

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within 6 months we knew pandemic of the obese

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Nope.
It was obvious immediately.
Old
Obese
Smokers
Etc

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I fail to see why telling those same at risk people that wearing a mask will protect them.

Losing weight will do more than the mask or shot ever will for their body and health long term.

But, I mean, feeeeeeeeeelings

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OK lardasses! Lose weight ya dumbasz bitchez... You are headed for a FATTY SCOOTER and a long drawn out painful death...

and keep your FATTY SCOOTER out of my way

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I fail to see why telling those same at risk people that wearing a mask will protect them.

Losing weight will do more than the mask or shot ever will for their body and health long term.

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You can tell patients all sorts of stuff that might be good for them, but compliance in that particular population is not going to be high.

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They’re all about the belittling of the opponent’s intellect. That’s a pretty common theme amongst the Left, and I find it rather suspect. Seems as if they’re attempting to reassure themselves about something that they’re not very confident about.

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Absolutely and in their zeal to come off as the enlightened and the “smartest people in the room” group…they bought into everything “mainstream” media, government, and pop culture spoon fed them so now they’re running around with God knows what crap in their veins from the jab and want to shame anyone who comes at them with a different opinion on best practices of staying safe through this.

Many of these dissenting opinions, I would proffer, are just as much if not more, rooted in science. Natural and nutritional based protective measures which are time tested…nothing that the Covid jabbers can claim. Some of this takes/took a bit of digging but the end result is probably a much better outcome for those who truly made the effort and applied “the science” of what they learned outside of the box. Kind of sounds like these folks are the smartest group in the room in reality.

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I fail to see how even telling people at risk to lose weight would be an effective strategy in the setting of a highly infectious disease. Patients generally have poor compliance and that seems to be true of patients with diabetes.

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It is their body, so it doesn't matter if it is effective a little or a lot. It is the job of doctors etc to tell the patient how to get better and how to protect themselves. If they follow the advice great then you saved a life possibly. If they don't follow the advice then at least whatever happens is on the patient.

But if you are a doctor and say nothing then you are partially responsible. You knowingly withheld information that might have saved their life. If it saves even one life... right!

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I can't help that all you have at this point is smugness

I'm guessing that's no accident.

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Do you have a point? I've been completely right about the molecular aspects of both this disease and the aspects of immunology that I love (and discuss ad nauseam). No one can discuss anything on those terms for some reason, and instead screech into the wind.