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Can we take a look at the Articles of Impeachment? This is absurd

Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:25 pm
Posted by ChunkyLover54
Member since Apr 2015
6530 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:25 pm
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ARTICLE 1: INCITEMENT OF INSURRECTION

The Constitution provides that the House of Representatives "shall have the sole Power of Impeachment" and that the President "shall be removed from Office on Impeachment, for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors." Further, section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution prohibits any person who has "engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States from "hold[ing] and office ... under the United States.' In his conduct while President of the United States — and in violation of his constitutional oath faithfully to execute the office of President of the United States and, to the best of his ability, preserve, provide, protect, and defend the Constitution of the United States and in violation of his constitutional duty to take care that the laws be faithfully executed — Donald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence against the Government of the United States, in that:

On January 6, 2021, pursuant to the 12th Amendment to the Constitution of the United States, the Vice President of the United States, the House of Representatives, and the Senate met at the United States Capitol for a Joint Session of Congress to count the votes of the Electoral College. In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, D.C. There, he reiterated false claims that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide." He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol, such as: "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." Thus incited by President Trump, members of the crowd he had addressed, in an attempt to, among other objectives, interfere with the Joint Session's solemn constitutional duty to certify the results of the 2020 Presidential election, unlawfully breached and vandalized the Capitol, injured and killed law enforcement personnel, menaced Members of Congress, the Vice President, and Congressional personnel, and engaged in other violent, deadly, destructive and seditious acts.

President Trump's conduct on January 6, 2021, followed his prior efforts to subvert and obstruct the certification of the results of the 2020 Presidential election. Those prior efforts included a phone call on January 2, 2021, during which President Trump urged the secretary of state of Georgia, Brad Raffensperger, to "find" enough votes to overturn the Georgia Presidential election results and threatened Secretary Raffensperger if he failed to do so.

In all this, President Trump gravely endangered the security of the United States and its institutions of Government. He threatened the integrity of the democratic system, interfered with the peaceful transition of power, and imperiled a coequal branch of Government. He thereby betrayed his trust as President, to the manifest injury of the people of the United States.

Wherefore, Donald John Trump, by such conduct, has demonstrated that he will remain a threat to national security, democracy, and the Constitution if allowed to remain in office, and has acted in a manner grossly incompatible with self-governance and the rule of law. Donald John Trump thus warrants impeachment and trial, removal from office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any office of honor, trust, or profit under the United States.


I understand it's not a court of law.

But he is accused of:
"engaged in insurrection or rebellion against" the United States from "hold[ing] and office"

"Donald John Trump engaged in high Crimes and Misdemeanors by inciting violence against the Government of the United States"

By doing this:

President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials

and

-he reiterated false claims that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide."

-He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol

-such as: "if you don't fight like hell you're not going to have a country anymore." Thus incited by President Trump, members of the crowd he had addressed, in an attempt to...

So this is based on "in context" and unproven assumptions about "inciting" the motives of the crowd.

This is laughable
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 12:27 pm
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
22943 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:27 pm to
I read this as Democrats having a Madlib version and they just have to insert nouns and verbs where needed
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95754 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:28 pm to
Normally the Dems just put “penis” in every blank.

And on the paper too.
Posted by arseinclarse
Algiers Purnt
Member since Apr 2007
34412 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:28 pm to
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This is laughable


I wish it was funny.

It's fricking pathetic.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:28 pm to
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-he reiterated false claims that "we won this election, and we won it by a landslide."

If the claim is false, you simply say "well, that's not true" and go on with your life. You don't impeach a President. Unless your arse is chapped because he's saying you didn't win. "How dare he say we didn't win. Why, he's gonna pay for that."
Posted by BuckPshrink
Sioux Falls, South Dakota
Member since Dec 2018
243 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:29 pm to
Drowning motions....
Another contributed a suggestion to the Impeachment as a means of preventing the second term??? Thursday's DNI release??? Last gasp efforts???
POPCORN!!!
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:31 pm to
All this trouble just to cover up their election fraud?
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50326 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:32 pm to
Just wait until normal citizens are their next target.
Posted by winkchance
St. George, LA
Member since Jul 2016
4119 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:33 pm to
So Maxin Waters:

“Let’s make sure we show up wherever we have to show up. And if you see anybody from that Cabinet in a restaurant, in a department store, at a gasoline station, you get out and you create a crowd. And you push back on them. And you tell them they’re not welcome anymore, anywhere. We’ve got to get the children connected to their parents,” Waters said at the Wilshire Federal Building, according to video of the event. LINK

Waters appeared on MSNBC later in the day to double down on her remarks, saying she has “no sympathy” for members of the Trump administration.

“The people are going to turn on them. They’re going to protest. They’re going to absolutely harass them until they decide that they’re going to tell the President, ‘No, I can’t hang with you.’”
Posted by L1C4
The Ville
Member since Aug 2017
13193 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:34 pm to
quote:

this is laughable
but there ain't nobody laughing.
Posted by indianswim
Plano, TX
Member since Jan 2010
18797 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

-He also willfully made statements that, in context, encouraged — and foreseeably resulted in — lawless action at the Capitol



If it was so foreseeable, why weren't they better prepared to stop it?
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95754 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:37 pm to
Because the head of the Capitol PD requested reinforcements and was denied by someone for “optics” reasons.

IOW, Pelosi et all let it happen because they wanted the Capitol under-guarded.
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2763 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:40 pm to
Doesn’t Trump get to now submit evidence of voter fraud (if it exists) during his “trial” since they specifically put that as a reason for impeachment?
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:43 pm to
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Doesn’t Trump get to now submit evidence of voter fraud (if it exists) during his “trial” since they specifically put that as a reason for impeachment?

There won't be a trial.
Posted by CedarChest
South of Mejico
Member since Jun 2020
2782 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:45 pm to
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All this trouble just to cover up their election fraud?
It's much more than that. They are trying to put Trump out of the picture forever, and that's a fact. But more than that, they want to destroy every middle-class and working-class white mfer in this once great country, and ultimately, the entire world.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18315 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:45 pm to
Lol history won’t be kind to Trump
Posted by mindbreaker
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
7639 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:46 pm to
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(if it exists)


Spoiler alert ... it doesn't
Posted by Bwmdx
Member since Dec 2018
2763 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:47 pm to
How unAmerican
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
67977 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:48 pm to
This is the second time that democRats are impeaching Trump for something that they did.
Posted by SSpaniel
Germantown
Member since Feb 2013
29658 posts
Posted on 1/13/21 at 12:51 pm to
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Lol history won’t be kind to Trump



It will be if we can ever get back a media that's worth a shite, instead of one that's hand in hand with the demoncrats. If we can somehow return honest to the media... and remove the liberal stink from the education system... then it'll be kind to Trump. Absent those things, you are probably right.
This post was edited on 1/13/21 at 12:52 pm
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