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Can we get the stats on police killings in America

Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:33 am
Posted by Tigahhs97
Member since Feb 2018
372 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:33 am
Having a hard time finding the stats.
Posted by Kino74
Denham springs
Member since Nov 2013
5343 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:41 am to
Here ya go. Race hustlers won't like it.

Police shootings by race

TLdr: Whites shot the most. Quite a bit more. The issue with blacks is that while 13% population they are overpresented in police shootings BUT people tend to leave out that blacks commit half the violent crime in the US. Pesky stats and all.

Posted by DougsMugs
Georgia
Member since Aug 2019
8239 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:44 am to
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BUT people tend to leave out that blacks commit half the violent crime in the US. Pesky stats and all.


according to a post earlier with some wacked out pyramid of racism, you are a covert racist for pointing out crime stats.
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9245 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:47 am to
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The issue with blacks is that while 13% population they are overpresented in police shootings BUT people tend to leave out that blacks commit half the violent crime in the US. Pesky stats and all.

This means nothing without context. The whole number or percentage of blacks "killed by police" means absolutely nothing. What matters is if the shootings were justified or not. If 100% of the blacks killed by police were shooting at the officers, the killings were justified, regardless of how many there were.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 11:50 am to
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The issue with blacks is that while 13% population they are overpresented in police shootings


See the thread I started on bad stats.

They are actually UNDER represented. I could take the time to explain why again here, but, it's already covered in my thread.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26662 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:00 pm to
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BUT people tend to leave out that blacks commit half the violent crime in the US. Pesky stats and all.


The same people quoting the police shooting stats that black over-represented, while claim stats that blacks commit more crimes as "misleading"

Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11906 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:02 pm to
I’d like to see a stat that includes the race of the cop doing the shooting as well.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 12:08 pm
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:03 pm to
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The same people quoting the police shooting stats that black over-represented, while claim stats that blacks commit more crimes as "misleading"


While blacks absolutely do commit more crime in the US...…...I wish people would just read my darned thread and realize that it isn't relevant to the discussion for 2 reasons.

1. Once you realize my thread is correct, you realize the base accusation that blacks are "over represented in police violence" is false

2. #1 actually tends to impact the question of crime by race also.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:04 pm to
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I’d like to see a stat that includes the race if the cop doing the shooting as well.


When you ask for ANY stat, you have to state what question you hope the stat will answer.

ANY request for stats on this subject that looks at NATIONAL numbers doesn't answer jack shite because people and cops are not distributed evenly in the nation.

National stats on this subject are about as informative regarding groups of people as national stats on shark attacks.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
73470 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Can we get the stats on police killings in America


Sure...right after I get me a 72 inch 4K.
Posted by JOJO Hammer
Member since Nov 2010
11906 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:09 pm to
Sorry I had to change if to of, I have fat fingers.

I want to see a star that includes the race of the cops involved in shootings. Are white cops shooting more than black cops?
Posted by Big Scrub TX
Member since Dec 2013
33353 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:12 pm to
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This means nothing without context. The whole number or percentage of blacks "killed by police" means absolutely nothing. What matters is if the shootings were justified or not. If 100% of the blacks killed by police were shooting at the officers, the killings were justified, regardless of how many there were.
Yes. There's also the potential complication of "armed vs unarmed".

Does anyone remember this one from South Carolina?

LINK
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:14 pm to
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Does anyone remember this one from South Carolina?


I do. And it was a total bullshite shoot.

But, like my thread from a day or two ago.

The problem will NEVER be solved as long as

1. The statistics put forth are utter bullshite
2. It is sold as a black problem instead of a police violence problem.

I want this shite solved as much as anyone alive. It just ain't gonna be until those two items are fixed...…..and...……...they're NEVER going to get fixed.
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26662 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:15 pm to
I agree with you. My post was about people picking and choosing which stats to promote, while claiming the stats they don't like are invalid.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32541 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:15 pm to
Yes, one cop unnecessarily murdering someone is too many.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:16 pm to
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I agree with you. My post was about people picking and choosing which stats to promote, while claiming the stats they don't like are invalid.

Understood.

Of course, the most propagated stat on this subject that exists is 100% invalid...…...so there is that.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139791 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:17 pm to
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one gang banger unnecessarily murdering someone’s child on the playground is too many.


Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32541 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:18 pm to
Agreed, not sure what your point is
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26662 posts
Posted on 5/28/20 at 12:18 pm to
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Yes, one cop unnecessarily murdering someone is too many.


Sometimes a person is just a piece of shite. I think people can recognize that the cop is a piece of shite and the guy should not have been killed, while not making it a racial issue.
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