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re: Can the MAGA/America First Movement Survive American military operations in Iran?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:07 am to DemonKA3268
Posted on 6/18/25 at 3:07 am to DemonKA3268
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Again, a weak response from a weak person. I figured you would have learned by now. Nope, I don’t have anything you “assume”. Keep looking like the pussy you see in the mirror every morning and cry about…
Oh shite! I didn’t realize I was dealing with the Internet tough guy wearing gold Trump shoes! I take it all back! Please don’t break your keyboard lol fricking loser.
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Posted on 6/18/25 at 4:57 am to SlowFlowPro
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Can the MAGA/America First Movement Survive American military operations in Iran?
Can you hyperbolic nuts survive if he doesn't? Because so far he hasn't
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:14 am to FredBear
Reading this board and many others might cause one to assume we’ve launched a full scale ground invasion. This isnt Iraq 2.0 it’s Syria 2.0.
This post was edited on 6/18/25 at 7:16 am
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:23 am to FredBear
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Can you hyperbolic nuts
Do you think one of the three scenarios I put in OP are unlikely at this point?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:24 am to tilco
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Reading this board and many others might cause one to assume we’ve launched a full scale ground invasion. This meant Iraq 2.0 it’s Syria 2.0.
"Syria 2.0" would be covered by my OP
And Syria 1.0 was terrible, FWIW, and against Trump's campaign promises.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:28 am to SlowFlowPro
What I know is none of them have happened at this point
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:35 am to SlowFlowPro
Trump is now for the first time I can remember in the political hypocrite category
Screw him
Screw him
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:37 am to Darth_Vader
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And as for everyone shitting their pants over the prospect of the US bombing Iran. Calm the frick down. You’re making complete asses of yourself. Are you pretending you didn’t hear President Trump proclaim numerous times during the campaign “Iran must not be allowed to have a nuclear bomb”? Did you forget he said that exact phrase in almost every speech? Did you think he was joking?
For all the crap that some these MAGA types have talked they really have no idea who or what they voted for. Trump is not now and never has been a non-interventionist. He has been entirely consistent on this issue from the very beginning. So these guys who threaten to quit MAGA over this never really understood what Trump was about.
It doesn't matter if Iran is 6 days, 6 weeks, 6 months, or 6 years from a bomb. They clearly have the means to produce one and they have a long history of being a malevolent actor. Trump has made the assessment that a nuclear armed Iran is an unacceptable risk and he has decided to confront the issue once and for all.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:41 am to SlowFlowPro
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And Syria 1.0 was terrible, FWIW, and against Trump's campaign promises.
What Presidential candidate have you voted for that has kept and made every campaign promise in their 4 years?
Assuming someone you’ve voted for has ever actually won.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:50 am to texag7
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What Presidential candidate have you voted for that has kept and made every campaign promise in their 4 years?
The point of this thread, good sir, is to discuss the reaction of MAGA/AF Movement supporters to that particular failure.
You can see from responses in this thread (not mine, so don't do your melt routine), this particular promise was very important to many in the movement, to the point where severe have admitted they would be done if this occurred.
This isn't like his tariff or immigration policies where Trump can continuously flip flop to soothe the movement (like we just saw, for example, with the recent policy change on targeting illegals, which got similar negative reactions as this thread, which he then reversed a day later in response to that reaction).
This is a binary scenario. Once he engages (past the line of the individual MAGA supporter), the line is crossed. He can't hem and haw and flip flop at that point.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:53 am to SlowFlowPro
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And Syria 1.0 was terrible, FWIW, and against Trump's campaign promises.
He blew up an airbase after the media and neocons swore he had to invade.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:54 am to SlowFlowPro
Why couldn't America First survive a military operation in Iran, if the goal is to neutralize an existential threat and avoid another Holocaust? I have no problem with it.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:55 am to tilco
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He blew up an airbase after the media and neocons swore he had to invade.
Sorry. I thought you meant the Obama-era, which was when Syria popped off (hence 1.0).
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:56 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:So are we retarded followers of Orange man or is the movement bigger than Trump? Why don’t you give us credit for our steadfast loyalty to AF and not Trump the man?
This isn't like his tariff or immigration policies where Trump can continuously flip flop to soothe the movement (like we just saw, for example, with the recent policy change on targeting illegals, which got similar negative reactions as this thread, which he then reversed a day later in response to that reaction).
We are more cohesive and consistent in our views than any decently sized faction of the left.
Why is your time spent shitting on us, questioning us, and claiming we’re weak minded retards who can’t do anything but submit to 1 man?
Posted on 6/18/25 at 5:58 am to SlowFlowPro
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this particular promise was very important to many in the movement, to the point where severe have admitted they would be done if this occurred.
Trump never promised any such thing. What he promised was that Iran possessing a nuclear bomb was unacceptable. These guys are getting what they voted for but they didn't read the fine print.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:00 am to ReauxlTide222
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So are we retarded followers of Orange man or is the movement bigger than Trump?
I didn't say the former and the latter is kind of baked into the discussion.
Another way the question can be asked, in and more admittedly pejorative way, is, "Does MAGA/America First have any actual principles or is it just what Trump says at that moment?"
Some believe that while Trump did start this movement, it's principles are bigger than the man and can survive past him or if he becomes a hypocrite.
Some seem to believe that it's what he says at that moment regardless of content (these are the people who are often joking referred to as the cult).
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We are more cohesive and consistent in our views than any decently sized faction of the left.
Y'all keep trying to turn this into a binary MAGA v. Left scenario and ignore that there are other options than those 2.
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Why is your time spent shitting on us, questioning us, and claiming we’re weak minded retards who can’t do anything but submit to 1 man?
You're projecting here.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:02 am to 14&Counting
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Trump never promised any such thing
Non-intervention and no new wars was part of the campaign, brother.
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What he promised was that Iran possessing a nuclear bomb was unacceptable.
And we don't even know if this is true.
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These guys are getting what they voted for but they didn't read the fine print.
No. These guys are anti-neocons and a big part of that is remembering Iraq under Bush. "WMDs in Iraq" is the same as "Nukes in Iran". Literally.
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:02 am to Perfect Circle
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Why couldn't America First survive a military operation in Iran, if the goal is to neutralize an existential threat and avoid another Holocaust? I have no problem with it.
Because he is an intellectual dullard who spends his free time looking to shite on Trump voters in any capacity
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:03 am to SlowFlowPro
What if you tried being an honest human for once in your life?
SlowFlowProtagonist…
SlowFlowProtagonist…
Posted on 6/18/25 at 6:04 am to texag7
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Because he is an intellectual dullard who spends his free time looking to shite on Trump voters in any capacity
You target this at me while ignoring all of the MAGA supporters who said they would be done if we do this, in this thread.
I'm not "shitting on" anyone. These people clearly exist.
Some of the MAGA diehards on here are on that list, too. Winnie, Banny, etc.
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