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re: Can someone remind why it’s wrong for Candidates to have contact with foriegners?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:02 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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there's certainly no proof that Trump's campaign took them up on any offer.
They certainly tried. And then they lied about that over and over, as well. 
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:03 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
According to Obama, ya need to wait until after the election....when you have more flexibility.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:03 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:If Russia offered it up, and Trumps campaign tried to take them up on that offer, then why didn’t it happen?
They certainly tried. And then they lied about that over and over, as well.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:03 pm to Stuttgart Tiger
You mean President Obama, right?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:03 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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When you break it down and get rid of all the fluff, that’s exactly what everyone is saying.
Nope.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:07 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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GeauxxxTigers23
Now:
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Can someone remind why it’s wrong for Candidates to have contact with foriegners?
Earlier today:
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I'm also pretty sure that you thought Obama/Clinton's "reset" with our mortal enemy Russia was a grand idea.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:08 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
quote:Because it was all a set up, and Jr and Kushner and Manafort fell for it like idiots and then lied about it like idiots
If Russia offered it up, and Trumps campaign tried to take them up on that offer, then why didn’t it happen?
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:10 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Can someone remind why it’s wrong for Candidates to have contact with foriegners?
Only applies when Dems lose an election.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:11 pm to Salmon
quote:I’m sorry but yes it is. The reason, and I mean the absolute only reason, that this is a story or there is an investigation is because Hillary lost. There is just no way around that.
Nope
If that weren’t the case then there would’ve been an investigation into Russian meddling after every election for generations.
The Obama administration literally ran on a platform of Russia not being an enemy of the United States. They gave up our missile defense shield in Poland simply because Putin told them too. They approved the sale of a national security asset to Russian interests.
Now all of the sudden, the day after the election in fact, Russia has become the most dangerous threat to democracy the world has ever known? Sorry, but when you do so much for Russia and Putin for 8 years I refuse to take seriously any accusations involving Russia. The media and the left have lost all standing in this matter to any clear thinking individual.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:11 pm to mmcgrath
quote:If you can’t see that I’m calling out hypocrisy with that post then I don’t know what to tell you
Earlier today:
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I'm also pretty sure that you thought Obama/Clinton's "reset" with our mortal enemy Russia was a grand idea.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:12 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:Set up by whom?
Because it was all a set up, and Jr and Kushner and Manafort fell for it like idiots and then lied about it like idiots
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:12 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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The reason, and I mean the absolute only reason, that this is a story or there is an investigation is because Hillary lost. There is just no way around that.
Ok. But that is an entirely different argument, no?
Your argument in the OP is that people are saying it is illegal for candidates to have contact with foreigners.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:13 pm to Salmon
quote:My argument is that people are trying to create a narrative that talking to foriegners during a campaign is “collusion” with the intent of implying that it is illegal.
Your argument in the OP is that people are saying it is illegal for candidates to have contact with foreigners.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:15 pm to The Spleen
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Why would they lie about it if it was perfectly legal and above board?
it isnt illegal for such a conversation to take place, but he lied because he didnt "at that time" have the legal authority to speak on behalf of trump on that subject.
its a very important distinction which is why its ok for obama to tell the russians he will give in to all their demands after the election but it wouldnt have been ok for flynn to say that for obama at that time.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:16 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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My argument is that people are trying to create a narrative that talking to foriegners during a campaign is “collusion” with the intent of implying that it is illegal.
People are making the argument that Trump's team continually lying about their contacts and conversations with Russia implies something nefarious, possibly collusion.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:17 pm to Salmon
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implies something nefarious,
Could imply something naive or imply inexperience with the dirty politics really happening in DC.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:18 pm to Salmon
quote:Which is a ridiculous argument. And I’ll add that the entire Russian collusion narrative started over a year ago with people saying that Trump officials even speaking with Russians was nefarious. That’s how this all began. And it’s one of the reason that I refuse to take any of this seriously.
People are making the argument that Trump's team continually lying about their contacts and conversations with Russia implies something nefarious, possibly collusion.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:19 pm to roadGator
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Could imply something naive or imply inexperience with the dirty politics really happening in DC.
Sure, I guess
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:20 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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Which is a ridiculous argument.
Cool. But it is the one people are making, not the one you made up in the OP. Just wanted to clarify.
Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:21 pm to Salmon
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conversations with Russia implies something nefarious, possibly collusion.
Sure, I guess.
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