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Can someone remind why it’s wrong for Candidates to have contact with foriegners?

Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:37 pm
It must’ve slipped my mind.


Also, why aren’t incoming national security advisors allowed to speak to foriegn ambassadors again?

Posted by saints5021
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:40 pm to
Hold on, let me find all of the articles from 2008 about Obama's wrongdoing during his candidate elect world tour....
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:41 pm to
And after someone explains why candidates can't contact foreign governments, can someone explain to me why the President-elect can't contact foreign governments?
Posted by Seldom Seen
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:43 pm to
I think it depends on if you're selling them Uranium or not.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
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Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:47 pm to
Flynn lied about talking to the Russians about sanctions.

Not a major deal.

They would dearly love Flynn to say, "President Trump appointed me to work with the Russians to try to fix the election in return for loosening sanctions after the election."

That is the liberal pipe dream.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:50 pm to
One has to wonder why they so vehemently denied talking to any Russians when that doesn't appear to be true. Why would they lie about it if it was perfectly legal and above board?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:52 pm to
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Why would they lie about it if it was perfectly legal and above board?
They probably just assumed, like all rational people did, that "talking to Russia" meant talking to Russia in an attempt to cheat in the election, not conduct legitimate foreign policy discussions.
Posted by bamarep
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:52 pm to
Because she lost.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:53 pm to
Because Russia illegaly hacked the Podesta emails and offered trumps campaign that info.

What about a foreign government trying to influence an election you think is a positive for America?
Posted by roadGator
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:54 pm to
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What about a foreign government trying to influence an election you think is a positive for America?


We should stop doing this ourselves if we don't want other doing it.

Or, Podesta could not get hacked.
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:55 pm to
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What about a foreign government trying to influence an election you think is a positive for America?
When it exposes corruption and dirty politicians IDGAF where the info comes from. Could come straight from ISIS for all I care.

quote:

Because Russia illegaly hacked the Podesta emails and offered trumps campaign that info.
There's no proof that any of this happened and there's certainly no proof that Trump's campaign took them up on any offer.
Posted by mahdragonz
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:57 pm to
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We should stop doing this ourselves if we don't want other doing it. 



This here folks is exactly what putin loves to hear.

It was even repeated by trump.

Americans are proudly saying we are cheats and as cheats we really have no claim in being the moral leader of the globe.

Posted by DaTruth225
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:57 pm to
There's nothing wrong with contacting foreign countries or their representatives. However, when the country that you contact has been found by your country's IC to have interfered with the election; all communication with that country is scrutinized. Furthermore if you lie about that communication to federal authorities, not only is it illegal; it makes it seem like you're hiding something.

These communication could possibly be completely normal and above board, but lying about it feeds the collusion theory by your opponents.
This post was edited on 12/1/17 at 1:00 pm
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:58 pm to
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We should stop doing this ourselves if we don't want other doing it.

Or, Podesta could not get hacked.


Is being stupid enough to open a phishing email qualify as hacking?
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
139776 posts
Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:58 pm to
Nope. I just find your indignation odd considering we do the same things all over the globe.

Perhaps we should stop. Surely Russia will stop too, right?

Are you of the opinion that we should continue to meddle in elections and other countries affairs?

This is an interesting debate that I don't expect to have here.
Posted by HC87
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 12:59 pm to
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When it exposes corruption and dirty politicians IDGAF where the info comes from. Could come straight from ISIS for all I care.


Perfect, let's wait to see what comes from Flynn in the coming days and weeks, and I'm sure we'll be able to make intelligent assessments.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:00 pm to
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Is being stupid enough to open a phishing email qualify as hacking?


I don't know the legalese around such language but I would certainly consider it stupidity that hackers took advantage of.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:00 pm to
quote:

Can someone remind why it’s wrong for Candidates to have contact with foriegners?


It's not

Can we stop pretending that anyone is saying it is?
Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Can we stop pretending that anyone is saying it is?
When you break it down and get rid of all the fluff, that’s exactly what everyone is saying.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 12/1/17 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

someone remind why it’s wrong for Candidates to have contact with foriegners?


Better yet when the job market is improving, business is picking up, taxes are about to go down and take-home pay up,

how about someone articulate why anyone should give a frick about talking to foreigners.
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