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re: Can someone explain the documents thing?

Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:11 pm to
Yeah completely different things. Good eye.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29879 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:13 pm to
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That’s ACCESS. Now find the one that says “the ex Vice President may unsecurely store classified documents in a sometimes fully open garage, next to a car purchased with foreign payoff funds, where anyone in the world may walk by and access them”.


I don’t believe anyone can, and that includes Trump. That’s not what I replied to. Reading comprehension

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nope, 1 was Pres. and the other was VP, the VP was not allowed those docs, the Pres was allowed to determine which documents were classified or not.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11606 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:15 pm to
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Biden apparently reached out to them and advised he had documents by accident
And he shared them by accident too?

GTFO with this bullshite
Posted by PaperTiger
Ruston, LA
Member since Feb 2015
23598 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:16 pm to
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hiding things you can have isn't illegal either.


Trump didnt hide shite. It started with things "not being in a SCIF", then graduated to him hiding documents from FBI and NARA.

Its embarrassing really. Democrats are fricking ridiculous.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41088 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:19 pm to
Not after leaving office.

You are lying. There’s no way you are this fricking stupid

ETA: and there were documents from his time in the senate. Reported as early as the 70s
This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 4:21 pm
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29879 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:24 pm to
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§ 2.2 Access to classified information by historical researchers, former Treasury Presidential and Vice Presidential appointees, and former Presidents and Vice Presidents.
(a) Access to classified information may be granted only to individuals who have a need-to-know the information. This requirement may be waived, however, for individuals who:

(1) Are engaged in historical research projects;

(2) Previously occupied a position in the Treasury to which they were appointed by the President under 3 U.S.C. 105(a)(2)(A), or the Vice President under 3 U.S.C. 106(a)(1)(A); or

(3) Served as President or Vice President.



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This post was edited on 2/9/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted by Grigio
Member since May 2023
616 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:26 pm to
This post was edited on 4/5/24 at 3:03 pm
Posted by jawnybnsc
Greer, SC
Member since Dec 2016
5111 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:29 pm to
I think you're missing a lot of context. This language does not apply to classification or retention of classified materials.
Posted by UncleFestersLegs
Member since Nov 2010
11606 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:40 pm to
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§ 2.2 Access to classified information by historical researchers, former Treasury Presidential and Vice Presidential appointees, and former Presidents and Vice Presidents.
(a) Access to classified information may be granted only to individuals who have a need-to-know the information. This requirement may be waived, however, for individuals who:

(1) Are engaged in historical research projects;

(2) Previously occupied a position in the Treasury to which they were appointed by the President under 3 U.S.C. 105(a)(2)(A), or the Vice President under 3 U.S.C. 106(a)(1)(A); or

(3) Served as President or Vice President.



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Notice the rest:

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(b) Access to classified information may be granted to individuals described in paragraph (a) of this section upon:
(1) A written determination by Treasury's Senior Agency Official, under Section 5.4(d) of Executive Order 13292, that access is consistent with the interest of the national security; and
(2) Receipt of the individual's written agreement to safeguard classified information, including taking all appropriate steps to protect classified information from unauthorized disclosure or compromise. This written agreement must also include the individual's consent to have any and all notes (including those prepared or stored in electronic media, whether written or oral) reviewed by authorized Treasury personnel to ensure that no classified information is contained therein and, if so, that the classified information is not published.
(c)
(i)
(A) A historical researcher is not authorized to have access to foreign government information or information classified by another Federal department or agency.
(B) A former Treasury Presidential or Vice Presidential appointee is only authorized access to classified information that the former official originated, reviewed, signed or received while serving as such an appointee.
(C) A former President or Vice President is only authorized access to classified information that was prepared by Treasury while that individual was serving as President or Vice President.
(ii) Granting access to classified information pursuant to this section does not constitute the granting of a security clearance for access to classified information.
(d) Treasury personnel will coordinate access to classified information by individuals described in paragraph (a) of this section with the Director, Office of Security Programs, who will ensure that the written agreement described in paragraph (b)(2) of this section is signed as a condition of being granted access to classified information.
(e) Any review of classified information by an individual described in paragraph (a) of this section shall take place in a location designated by the Director, Office of Security Programs. Such persons must be accompanied at all times by appropriately authorized Treasury personnel authorized to have access to the classified information being reviewed. All notes (including those prepared or stored in electronic media, whether written or oral) made by an individual described in paragraph (a) of this section shall remain in the custody of the Office of Security Programs pending a determination by appropriately cleared subject matter experts that no classified information is contained therein.

(f) An individual described in paragraph (a) of this section is subject to search, as are all packages or carrying cases prior to entering or leaving Treasury. Access to Treasury-originated classified information at another Federal department or agency, as may be authorized by the Director, Office of Security Programs shall be governed by security protocols in effect at the other Federal department or agency.
(g) Treasury personnel must perform a physical verification and an accounting of all classified information each time such information is viewed by an individual described in paragraph (a) of this section. Physical verification and an accounting of all classified information shall be made both prior to and after viewing. Any discrepancy must be immediately reported to the Director, Office of Security Programs.


how many security program personnel were living in bidens garage?
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
29879 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 4:41 pm to
No clue. How many at maro lago
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
10544 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 5:33 pm to
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No clue

Yep
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
41088 posts
Posted on 2/9/24 at 6:39 pm to
He got it from Snopes. Lol
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