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re: Can somebody explain to me how hunters love animals?

Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:01 am to
Posted by Bard
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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extremely tasty 100+ lb forest rats


fify ;)
Posted by WheelRoute
Washington, D.C.
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:01 am to
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Going into the wood and killing my dinner gets my testosterone on.



In that case just be honest and say killing shite gives you a hard-on. Don't rationalize it by saying you're doing it b/c you love animals.
Posted by Mohican
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:03 am to
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It's more akin to respect of, interest and/or seeing a kindred spirit in the animal(s) than "love" like you are thinking of. As an example, some Indian tribes would thank the spirits of the animals they killed, even if they had killed many more than what they needed for survival.




This is closer to it. Let me, Mohican, try to put it into words. It's hard to explain, but hunters know more about the animals they hunt and appreciate them more than any nonhunter ever could. You see things they do, in their domain, and interact with them in ways others can't. You truly come to respect the animal, much like you would an adversary who took you to the final round or an opponent who earns your respect on the field in football. Sure, you might win, but you respect them. There are days the animal wins, and you come to appreciate all the senses and natural instincts God gave that animal to survive and evade you despite your best efforts.

I deer hunt, and I love deer. They are majestic creatures. They are beautiful. They are smart in their own, natural way. They are graceful in their environment. It's amazing the senses they have to survive. They are prey animals so they are wired to avoid predators of many kind, not just humans.

And it's just a respect for a fellow living being. Hunting strikes a primal chord inside you that not many modern humans who don't hunt get to feel. Yes, you took the animals life, but you do it in a respectful manner. You try to ensure a clean kill. And you don't just kill to kill, you kill it to enjoy the venison which has its own unique flavor.

So, like the above poster said, its a healthy respect but also a love. I love deer and would put in a lot of effort and money to ensure their conservation and overall health of the herd.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:04 am to
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You got some tiny arse deer down South.

100 lbs would be a small doe around here. A buddy of mine had a member in his club on the Big Black kill a 260 lb 8 pt the other day. That's about as big as you hear about here. Soybean farmers can get some pretty heavy deer but still, I would think 260-275 would be upper limits.
Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:04 am to
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You got some tiny arse deer down South.


he's obviously never been hunting
Posted by son of arlo
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:12 am to
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You got some tiny arse deer down South.


yeah, nothing like mule deer out west. I used to be into hunting, but two things happened. I was hunting on public land in NM and came across a camp of TX hunters and asked if they'd had any success. One guy said they'd only got a couple of "sound shots, i.e. they heard a sound and shot in the direction.

The other thing was a story about a father who took his son hunting and accidentally killed him. Then he did the old toe on the trigger with the muzzle in his mouth thingy. Never hunted since then.

So back to the OP. I used to be a hunter and was concerned about deer populations. Now that I don't hunt, I'm ready for all of them to be dead. Answer your question?
Posted by Tigerstudent08
Lakeview
Member since Apr 2007
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:14 am to
que all the people coming in here to say if they didn't kill the deer they would overpopulate and starve to death.
Posted by CITWTT
baton rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:14 am to
Do you have any experience at all at providing food for yourself and your family that doesn't rely upon going to a friggin grocery store, and that includes growing a garden?
Posted by wickowick
Head of Island
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:15 am to
People talk about free range organic meat, but hate the idea of hunting...
Posted by PrimeTime Money
Houston, Texas, USA
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:15 am to
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Do you have any experience at all at providing food for yourself and your family that doesn't rely upon going to a friggin grocery store, and that includes growing a garden?
Not me personally. I've been fishing once
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:16 am to
DDawg this is the place for white tail.
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Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:22 am to
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What do you mean?


Overpopulation. Over population of a species leads to the decline of another species. Take, for example, the wild boar/pig. These animals have reproduced and multiplied at such an alarming rate that they have decimated many food sources for deer and other animals. They are seen as a nuisance pest due to how quickly they breed and the damage it is doing to the ecosystem.

Hunting keeps the population of a species in balance, in places like America. There are no natural predators to deer or fowl. Therefore, without humans, there population would expand and wipe out the food source and ecosystem that it needs to survive. That's also why there are limits on what you can hunt, so you do not negatively impact the # of animals in the wild.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19138 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:22 am to
I have a good friend who loves poisonous snakes. I do not like water moccasins, copperheads, or any type of rattlesnake. I don't hunt them but if they happen to be within the boundaries of my property, I will kill them and not have one speck of remorse for doing so.
Posted by son of arlo
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:23 am to
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que all the people coming in here to say if they didn't kill the deer they would overpopulate and starve to death.


You've obviously never been in an "old growth" forest area where there's not a green leaf to be found unless it's 7' off the ground. Idiots like you kill me.

I've always thought anti-hunting zealots all lived on the 6th floor of some apartment building in Manhattan, and therefore never had to live in among their darling Bambis.
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:23 am to
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Answer your question?
I am not sure if you meant to reply to me, I had no question.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28165 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:24 am to
I grew up hunting with my father so partly just enjoy doing things with him and having those memories. Also it's peaceful to go out into the wild. Hunting gives me a good excuse to walk through the woods. Animals are beautiful in nature. Food is certainly secondary to the above but animal populations do need to be controlled as natural predators have been elminated. I don't think i've killed an animal hunting in 3 years. Primarily because i have young kids that take up most of my time. Now fishing is another story. The thrill of the fight is everything. Plus you can't really see the fish (for the most part) unless you catch them. Love me some tuna fishing.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
84884 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:25 am to
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I grew up hunting with my father so partly just enjoy doing things with him and having those memories. Also it's peaceful to go out into the wild. Hunting gives me a good excuse to walk through the woods. Animals are beautiful in nature. Food is certainly secondary to the above but animal populations do need to be controlled as natural predators have been elminated. I don't think i've killed an animal hunting in 3 years. Primarily because i have young kids that take up most of my time. Now fishing is another story. The thrill of the fight is everything. Plus you can't really see the fish (for the most part) unless you catch them. Love me some tuna fishing.
I hear ya.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37134 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:26 am to
Yeah - I watch many of the hunting shows (I especially like Tiffany ) and the biggest antlered deer are always harvested in Iowa. The same buddy I mentioned in the other post killed a 190 inch mainframe 10 pt in Pike County, Illinois a couple of years ago with a bow.
Posted by Jbird
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:27 am to
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(I especially like Tiffany
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The same buddy I mentioned in the other post killed a 190 inch mainframe 10 pt in Pike County, Illinois a couple of years ago with a bow.
They will fark your car up with the quickness.
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28165 posts
Posted on 1/15/14 at 10:30 am to
correction to not killing anything: I forgot about dove hunting...
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