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re: California Rep. (R) introduces legislation to legalize MJ by state
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:05 pm to BamaCoaster
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:05 pm to BamaCoaster
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But it also takes power and resources from the states.
How so?
This is federal legislation that stipulates that current federal legislation won't be enacted in states that legalize MJ.
In other words if backwoods Arkansas or Mississippi want to keep the devil's lettuce illegal, they will have the support of the DEA.
OTOH the freedom lovers in Colorado won't have to worry about the federal government knocking down their door when they toke up on Saturday night.
How does that affect what a state can and can't do?
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Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:06 pm to Bamatab
We've had this debate before. I'm happy that this wicked spiteful federal law has been ignored.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:09 pm to NYNolaguy1
I'm all for state's deciding things like this.
However, if your state still says it's illegal, and you get busted, you should be prosecuted.
However, if your state still says it's illegal, and you get busted, you should be prosecuted.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:09 pm to Bamatab
I get your argument that it is federally illegal, but it should be left up to the states, and It should be changed. I don't like the federal law against it, and I think it's stupid not to federally legalize it. It would literally create a multi-billion dollar industry within the states.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:14 pm to JohnnyRebel
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It would literally create a multi-billion dollar industry within the states.
LEO is going to have a big problem with this. "I smelled marijuana in the vehicle" won't be able to be used anymore for probable cause to search anything.
It will also reduce the amount of goods seized based on roadside stops, if nothing else because dogs won't be able to discern between heroine, MJ, or cocaine in their alerts.
If there's a hearing on this (I doubt there will be one), expect the LEO lobby to kill it in the water.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:15 pm to JohnnyRebel
Hope this passes. As a State's person, it (this issue) should be left up to the States. Crime has traditionally always been left to the states. Why drugs are any different I have no idea considering it is a crime, and SCOTUS has specifically exempted crime from the ICC. I'm not even sure how drugs came to be under federal regulation.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:16 pm to dcrews
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However, if your state still says it's illegal, and you get busted, you should be prosecuted.
I should have added this into my above post.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:16 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:
How does that affect what a state can and can't do?
The Feds control pot by the DEA/FDA scheduling of the drug.
The Feds contribute manpower via the DEA and prison system fighting the unwinnable battle to eradicate it's use.
The States where it is currently illegal make a shite ton due to prohibition via fines, charges, incarceration, confiscation, drug court, rehab, etc. Police, judges, wardens, sheriffs, rehabs, etc. That is a ton of powerful people that are holding onto their cash cows via indoctrination.
As I often argue with liberals who want more gov't, just look at the drug war as what gov't represents.
I think it was Gary Johnson who quipped, "The War on Drugs is a litmus test for a brain".
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:17 pm to NYNolaguy1
Good point. Poor LEO won't have anyone to bust things for. If that's the argument, then frick LEO
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:18 pm to JohnnyRebel
Who will drive heavy haul and operate heavy machinery?
Serious question.
There needs to be a viable test.
Serious question.
There needs to be a viable test.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:20 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
Feds control pot by the DEA/FDA scheduling of the drug.
The Feds contribute manpower via the DEA and prison system fighting the unwinnable battle to eradicate it's use.
The States where it is currently illegal make a shite ton due to prohibition via fines, charges, incarceration, confiscation, drug court, rehab, etc. Police, judges, wardens, sheriffs, rehabs, etc. That is a ton of powerful people that are holding onto their cash cows via indoctrination.
As I often argue with liberals who want more gov't, just look at the drug war as what gov't represents.
That's true, but those resources would still be available if this law passed. It wouldn't affect federal enforcement in states that criminalize MJ.
Sherriff Billy Bob can keep his brand new Bear Cat, his tacticool SWAT Team, and the DA can still pay off his law school student loans with the "drug money" they get from "criminals".
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:26 pm to navy
quote:
Who will drive heavy haul and operate heavy machinery?
Serious question.
There needs to be a viable test.
Self driving vehicles and trucking is an upcoming technology
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:28 pm to biglego
Our stores have been open for about 4 hours every month. They sell out and have to wait for a new crop. It's still regulated beyond reason.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:35 pm to TidenUP
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Legalize it. But until then, weed is still illegal so it should be prosecuted.
Completely agree with the above statement and the law as proposed. This is a true state issue.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:43 pm to NYNolaguy1
quote:He's a "medical marijuana" patient in the same sense that Gary Johnson is
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA), a medical marijuana patient himself
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:47 pm to Iosh
quote:
e's a "medical marijuana" patient in the same sense that Gary Johnson is
Anxiety, man. It's rampant.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:52 pm to NYNolaguy1
Dam, they sure are flooding the legislature with bullshite while there are more important things to tackle at the moment
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:55 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Flushing a trillion dollars down the drain over some oil in the middle east is not any less "big government" than helping poor people pay for medical care.
I agree we should stop doing both. Don't you?
Posted on 2/13/17 at 6:59 pm to navy
quote:I agree that a test is important. But I've always felt this was a terrible justification for not legalizing it, especially when big government itself was making the argument because it was so self-reinforcing.
Who will drive heavy haul and operate heavy machinery?
Serious question.
There needs to be a viable test.
In other words, big government eliminated the free-market in the matters, yet it then uses this to justify the lack of test, which had little or no need on the market. Of course now, as it becomes legalized, the maker will have incentive to create a test.
It just seems like a classic case of the government using the consequences of its actions as justification for continuing those actions.
Posted on 2/13/17 at 7:10 pm to TidenUP
Buck the haters bro. States have no rights to trump federal law
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