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Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:40 pm
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
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Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:40 pm
In March 2020, I stayed infections way underreported.
Due to seeing many celebs etc get Rona then. Way higher than supposed rate.

I'm seeing same thing here.
Supposedly 1 in 5000 breakthrough.

Yet, 8 Saints staff/coaches.
2 counts on the view.
Chris rock
Etc etc

It's a matter of testing.
If they'd test general population they'd reveal way more cases of vaccinated getting infection.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24949 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:42 pm to
Yeah that 1 in 5000 is horseshite I don’t know 5000 people and know at least 10 vaccinated people that have caught Covid
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:44 pm to
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Supposedly 1 in 5000 breakthrough.


Where does this claim come from?
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24949 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:44 pm to
Straight from pudding brains mouth
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6149 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

I've known 10 who caught Covid while vaccinated


Plus, guarantee some did but weren't tested. That 10 is probably 20 or Even 50.
Posted by gsvar2004
Member since Nov 2007
7951 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:45 pm to
The “president”
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:45 pm to
quote:

Where does this claim come from?

likely from a moron communist. You know, like YOU!
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:45 pm to
Did he say this today or something? No way anyone believes that number.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24949 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:47 pm to
Said it in a televised speech on Covid
ETA: same speech when he dropped the 100+ employee mandate for vaccinations
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:48 pm to
Over 71 out of every 1000 vaccinated in Massachusetts have already been confirmed to have a breakthrough infection.

That number goes up around .1% every week. They’re averaging around 4,000 breakthrough cases on 4.5M vaccinated per week.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 1:49 pm
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:48 pm to
When did he say that?

Hell I guess it doesn't matter. Even if you had a vaccine that was 99 percent effective the number would be higher... because of math.

Dude is a clown
Posted by Lsut81
Member since Jun 2005
80098 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:49 pm to
quote:

Supposedly 1 in 5000 breakthrough.



NO chance this is true... I only know maybe 40-50 people in a day to day basis for work and know of at least 7 breakthroughs.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:50 pm to
quote:

ETA: same speech when he dropped the 100+ employee mandate for vaccinations

Was it prefaced with anything about hospitalizations or deaths or was he straight up saying that's how rare breakthrough cases are? If it's the latter he's worse off than I thought.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
39388 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:51 pm to
Israeli docs and scientists have measured about 40% efficacy for the vaccines. so more like 1 in 3.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:52 pm to
quote:

Even if you had a vaccine that was 99 percent effective the number would be higher... because of math.


Not necessarily.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:54 pm to
quote:

Not necessarily.

Perhaps. But the 1 in 5000 number simply isn't believable based on the best real world data we have.

If he's talking about hospitalizations or deaths it might be more believable. If it's just straight cases then it's a clown claim.
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
24949 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 1:59 pm to
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If it's the latter he's worse off than I thought.


Oh it’s the latter he was using that as a plea to make people get vaccinated. This so called vaccine is worse than the flu shot at preventing infection
Posted by idsrdum
Member since Jan 2017
443 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:19 pm to
These are quotes from the Pfizer FDA Briefing document. Breakthrough cases occured during the trial period but were NOT counted.

quote:

As specified in the protocol, suspected cases of symptomatic COVID-19 that were not PCR confirmed were not recorded as adverse events unless they met regulatory criteria for seriousness


quote:

Among 3410 total cases of suspected but unconfirmed COVID-19 in the overall study
population, 1594 occurred in the vaccine group vs. 1816 in the placebo group.
Suspected
COVID-19 cases that occurred within 7 days after any vaccination were 409 in the vaccine
group vs. 287 in the placebo group. It is possible that the imbalance in suspected COVID-19
cases occurring in the 7 days post vaccination represents vaccine reactogenicity with symptoms
that overlap with those of COVID-19


Seems like the public has been misled. This should surprise no one.

ETA - see page 42 for above quotes.
This post was edited on 9/24/21 at 2:36 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:24 pm to
Thanks for the link.
Posted by Bard
Definitely NOT an admin
Member since Oct 2008
51476 posts
Posted on 9/24/21 at 2:25 pm to
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It's a matter of testing.


Nope, it's a matter of reporting.

The CDC (and thus the states, the media, etc) is not tracking breakthroughs of those who have not yet had their 2nd shot nor those breakthroughs which do not result in hospitalization or death.
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