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re: BREAKING: Trump hints US could 'pull out of NATO' over Greenland

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Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:45 pm to
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The US pays about 16-22% of these common funds

For administrative shite, yes. And guess what, our people run nato and staff almost all of the important positions at NATO HQ.

Still are not funding any other countries military. You’re conflating office space and support staff with military spending
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:46 pm to
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POTUS doesn’t have the ability to do that anyway.


Congress could pass new legislation. Hopefully Massie and Rand don’t frick this one up. You would think saving 2.4% of our GDP would be a good thing to them.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:46 pm to
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You like funding 31 other countries military? That surprises me.


He’d sell his soul for the US to send a Marine from Iowa to die for Ukraine
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 1:47 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:46 pm to
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What is shared bases and equipment funded by the US? Good Lord.

Huh?

We pay those nations to use their facilities, and pay for expansions and such that WE want on their bases. That isn’t what funds their militaries.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:46 pm to
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For administrative shite, yes. And guess what, our people run nato and staff almost all of the important positions at NATO HQ. Still are not funding any other countries military. You’re conflating office space and support staff with military spending


Shared bases and equipment funded by the US. You can parse all you want. You’re still incorrect.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:47 pm to
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Congress could pass new legislation. Hopefully Massie and Rand don’t frick this one up. You would think saving 2.4% of our GDP would be a good thing to them.

There is not and will not be 60 Senate votes to give POTUS the unilateral authority to leave NATO
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:47 pm to
I don't see anything in the link you posted which says the U.S. is spending/funding other countries' military.

Can you quote from the text where it says that?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:48 pm to

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We pay those nations to use their facilities, and pay for expansions and such that WE want on their bases. That isn’t what funds their militaries.


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The money the US contributes to NATO goes into two main types of funding: direct common funding for shared operations and infrastructure, and the much larger national defense budgets of member countries.


LINK
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:48 pm to
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You would think saving 2.4% of our GDP would be a good thing to them.

We wouldnt save anything. U.S. Contribution to NATO Common Funds: Approximately $753 million in 2024,

Trump wants to increase our military spending from $850 billion to $1.5 trillion

Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:49 pm to
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I don't see anything in the link you posted which says the U.S. is spending/funding other countries' military. Can you quote from the text where it says that?


See the link above.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37267 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:49 pm to
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Shared bases and equipment funded by the US. You can parse all you want. You’re still incorrect.

What are you talking about?

We lease space on other nations bases, and pay for that. We base our surveillance aircraft and military units there, and pay for the upgrades and expansions required for that. Yes.

We don’t fund any other nations military. The rent we pay Germany for using Ramstein does not fund their military. The rent we pay to Spain to base a squadron of destroyers at Rota does not fund their military.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37267 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:50 pm to
Your link says nothing about funding other countries militaries. It says that we pay for our own forces to use other countries’ bases.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68398 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:50 pm to
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Is President Trump starting to lose his mind??


Pretty sure the US has a bigger military than the rest of NATO combined.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:50 pm to
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We wouldnt save anything. U.S. Contribution to NATO Common Funds: Approximately $753 million in 2024, Trump wants to increase our military spending from $850 billion to $1.5 trillion


Why did you only list the common fund and why are you stating us leaving nato wouldn’t be savings because there is spending elsewhere? Thats silly. As is a far left wacko pretending they care about spending.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:51 pm to
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Your link says nothing about funding other countries militaries. It says that we pay for our own forces to use other countries’ bases.


Keep reading. Also…what do we lose if we keep 2.4% of our GDP. Be specific.
This post was edited on 1/16/26 at 1:52 pm
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
37267 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:51 pm to
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Keep reading.

Quote what you’re referring to
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:52 pm to
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Quote what you’re referring to


Haha. Too lazy to read the entire thing?
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:53 pm to
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There is not and will not be 60 Senate votes to give POTUS the unilateral authority to leave NATO


Reconciliation!!
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
9140 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:53 pm to
NATO is a load of BS anyways
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
59463 posts
Posted on 1/16/26 at 1:53 pm to
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We lease space on other nations bases, and pay for that. We base our surveillance aircraft and military units there, and pay for the upgrades and expansions required for that. Yes.


To protect whom? Think real hard.
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