re: Breaking: Multiple fatalities in Orlando shooting

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If there's more of a point then explain, if not then you're missing my point

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Explain your point.

My point is that them having to use trucks is gun control working even at the smallest level. Which is what Europe thinks. You're not going to stop everything, but if they aren't using guns then that's something working. Because as we've established, they would much rather use guns than trying to ram people with a truck.

People are going to say "ban rocks, knives, scissors" whenever something happens. Improvising some scissors instead of a mass shooting has to be an improvement of some sort no? Like I said, the issue lies within the people wielding these items, I'm not arguing that.

It's as much of an assumption as how many lives were saved because of guns. Moot point.

You could assume the CC holder in Arlington saved a range of people had he not shot the would be mass murderer. But I understand you won't buy that. And that's fine.

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It's kind of impossible to answer that, but you knew that when you wrote it.

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it's not. Because it hasn't. Nail Bombs, knives, suicide vests, vehicles, etc. unarmed people are sitting ducks. Plain and simple. Had the movie theatre allowed guns in Auora, the guy standing front and center cycling through magazines would not have gotten nearly as far.

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It's relevant though. Why should anyone take someone's views seriously when they can't even be bothered to educate themselves on the basic terminology of the topic.

This type of talk stems from ignorance and fear mongering. It should be adamantly and absolutely opposed.

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Arguing about the "Assault weapon" characteristics is pointless. It's playing directly into the narrative of progs who want people to think that there is something inherently wrong with a weapon designed to effectively perform during an assault. "oh yeah, THOSE are assault weapons... Well my ar 15 is just a plain ole squirrel gun!". Functionally, the AR and M4A1 will work interchangeably in 99% of assaults. Good. That's what we want. That's why the 2A was written. Who cares what some weapon producer called the early select fire rifles?

The argument for the 2A has to be based on something deeper than a selector switch or ammo caliber, or we are just slow playing the inevitable here.

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My point is that them having to use trucks is gun control working even at the smallest level. Which is what Europe thinks

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It does not. You want it to but it doesn't.


They are driving trucks in to crowds of people because it does maximum damage in a short amount of time without having to worry about being overtaken.

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On the evening of 14 July 2016, a 19 tonne cargo truck was deliberately driven into crowds celebrating Bastille Day on the Promenade des Anglais in Nice, France, resulting in the deaths of 86 people[2] and injuring 434.[4][5][6][7][8] The driver was Mohamed Lahouaiej-Bouhlel, a Tunisian resident of France.[9][10] The attack ended following an exchange of gunfire, during which Lahouaiej-Bouhlel was shot and killed by police.

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Had the movie theatre allowed guns in Auora, the guy standing front and center cycling through magazines would not have gotten nearly as far.

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You're just writing a movie script where the good guy stands up and kills him before being killed. The fact you can't see that's a complete assumption is pretty amazing.

Also unarmed people are sitting ducks yes no one can deny that, but shitty nail bombs and knives are NOT what the terrorists want to use. They want Paris. They want Orlando. They don't want 2-3 people here and there.

Why don't you tell me why they don't use guns every time.

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Also unarmed people are sitting ducks yes no one can deny that, but shitty nail bombs and knives are NOT what the terrorists want to use. They want Paris. They want Orlando. They don't want 2-3 people here and there.

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they use actual bombs where guns are allowed...

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You're just writing a movie script where the good guy stands up and kills him before being killed. The fact you can't see that's a complete assumption is pretty amazing.

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hypothetical yes. Unreasonable hypothetical if it didn't happen. Which it does.

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Nail Bombs, knives, suicide vests, vehicles, etc. unarmed people are sitting ducks.

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In all of those cases except the knives, armed people are sitting ducks just as much as the unarmed folks.

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My point is that them having to use trucks is gun control working even at the smallest level

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you are a fricking idiot. I hope a terrorist hits you with a truck

When they have guns they can defend themselves against illegally obtained guns. Terrorism aside, have you seen documentaries of the U.K. "Underworld". There are tons of guns in those streets.