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re: Big Monday at the SCOTUS; praying and how bad is this country
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:20 am to CrystalPreserves
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:20 am to CrystalPreserves
STFU
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:22 am to hottub
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They don’t have to recite it but still have to observe it being performed.
And?
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:24 am to CrystalPreserves
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It really is, but the caliphate “won” for christians and the democratic republic lost this one.
Freedom won.
No wonder that you are mad.
And we are a constitutional republic.
frick your mob rule.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 9:33 am to hottub
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But it is okay to force kids in school to observe/participate in a daily pledge to a flag.
Maybe they should be doing more if this and less of brainwashing little kids into thinking they need to mutilate their genitals to satisfy mentally ill adults political agendas.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 10:57 am to jimmy the leg
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And we are a constitutional republic.
You’re so frustrated and you don’t understand why. Here, learn something about how stuff works in this country. READ
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:11 pm to JJJimmyJimJames
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JJJimmyJimJames
You typed a lot of general words to have no specific point at all. Just regurgitated rhetoric from the collective right. You do what they tell you to do, and regurgitate what they tell you to regurgitate and crack yourself another natty light while righteously standing over your meat smoker in your white new balances. I get it. I live in Louisiana, I see it everyday.
Biggest problem with people in 2022, is either their side wins and they force their point of view on the other half of America, or they stay angry. It’s a lose/lose game. Half the people are always gnarling teeth.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:14 pm to CrystalPreserves
quote:oh there are plenty of pertinent words but you remain too busy making up nonsensical shite to attack others about. They are absolutely my own - a concept that you obviously have trouble with,
You typed a lot of general words to have no specific point at all.
It is who you kids remain... unfortunately.
seen it a thousand times on here - you are certainly not the first to bloviate such nonsense on here.
This post was edited on 7/10/22 at 12:16 pm
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:19 pm to Ace Midnight
quote:Amen. These generations miss the point so badly - I think because they spend so much time making up nonsense.
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Historically, it was Americans who were/are not Christians who’ve had to fight
Dammit, when you're right you're right.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 12:22 pm to CrystalPreserves
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the freedom from religion
?
Posted on 7/10/22 at 3:29 pm to CrystalPreserves
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You’re so frustrated
Not really.
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Here, learn something about how stuff works in this country.
Coming from you, this is comedy.
Posted on 7/10/22 at 5:06 pm to Ace Midnight
There are far more headstones in Arlington with non-christian headstones than you like to acknowledge.
Thousands of non-christian servicemen have died for you to enjoy your christianity. You should respect them and do so tactfully. Stop disrespecting them (and their kids and grandkids) by infringing on their right to not practice your favorite church’s traditions and values.
Thousands of non-christian servicemen have died for you to enjoy your christianity. You should respect them and do so tactfully. Stop disrespecting them (and their kids and grandkids) by infringing on their right to not practice your favorite church’s traditions and values.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:18 am to CrystalPreserves
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There are far more headstones in Arlington with non-christian headstones than you like to acknowledge.
I posted a picture with non-Christian headstones. I said you were right.
And WTF do you know about what I would "like to acknowledge"? Your argument/debate style lacks credibility. It is off-putting and not very persuasive.
1. You don't know your audience
2. You don't concede obvious points
3. You stray from the core point
4. You use lots of fallacies
My key point is: The imposition of a "religious blackout" in the public square is onerous to the majority and does no favors to the minority. It is not supported by the Constitution or any of the nation's longstanding institutions. The Houses of Congress have chaplains. The military branches have chaplains. We mention God on the currency and many of the official seals.
Requiring folks to follow a particular faith (or any faith at all) is NOT allowed. Being exposed to expressions of faith by others is inevitable.
Your side, overall, is wrong. You are wrong in particular.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 6:19 am
Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:24 am to hottub
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They don’t have to recite it but still have to observe it being performed.
please explain this /\ this /\
What on earth are you insinuating ??
Posted on 7/11/22 at 6:31 am to CrystalPreserves
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right to not practice your favorite church’s traditions and values
and where is that 'right' being forced on anyone??
You realize of course that what you are advocating is a system where that person's 'right to not be made to observe' means everyone else has to be forced to observe his "favorite tradition"
complete nonsense it is
Posted on 7/11/22 at 7:55 am to Wtodd
Happy to report that at our private school, we begin the morning with prayer and the pledge.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 10:39 am to Ace Midnight
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I posted a picture with non-Christian headstones. I said you were right. And WTF do you know about what I would "like to acknowledge"? Your argument/debate style lacks credibility. It is off-putting and not very persuasive.
My posts contain facts that are either relevant to the post topic, or the occasional responses to the dozen people here snarking in like yourself (after you misquoted me no less) to reframe the conversation and then trying to red herring or strawman your way to a point. Pick a lane and stay in it, nitwit.
This post was edited on 7/11/22 at 10:41 am
Posted on 7/11/22 at 11:08 am to CrystalPreserves
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Pick a lane and stay in it, nitwit.
I accept your concession, via namecalling, that you have lost the debate (or are no longer interested in continuing).
Non-Christians have done very little to build or sustain the American Dream. I have no particular brook with folks of other faiths, nor do I have any particular issue with agnostics or even regular folks who happen to be atheistic.
It is the militant atheist, not content with their freedom to not participate, encouraged by the increasingly inaccurately named ACLU, going into every courtroom, challenging every public display of the majority's religion as some sort of affront to the establishment clause. It is wrong-headed, counterproductive and the absolute opposite of "live and let live". If we're going to throw out "live and let live", your side is not going to like how that turns out.
Posted on 7/11/22 at 10:21 pm to Ace Midnight
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I accept your concession, via namecalling, that you have lost the debate (or are no longer interested in continuing)
There was never a debate, Bullwinkle. I posted the truth, you of course could not attack the truth. Instead, you invest your energy into deflection, reframing, and red herring.
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Non-Christians have done very little to build or sustain the American Dream.
You revise your own history like that all the time, kid? Or just when trolling? It’s so ridiculously ignorant that it isn’t even worthy of a response out side of saying that you have much to learn or acknowledge.
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I have no particular brook with folks of other faiths, nor do I have any particular issue with agnostics or even regular folks who happen to be atheistic.
We are the same.
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It is the militant atheist, not content with their freedom to not participate, encouraged by the increasingly inaccurately named ACLU,…
Scratch that, no we aren’t. Clearly, you don’t understand the way a republic functions. Or the trampling that Militant Christians do on the rights of others who do not believe, assimilate into the popular majority, and comply with the religious practices of one popular religion over any and all others. Flipping the bird to every non-christian American military veteran with a headstone like the one I posted earlier in the process. When one takes issue with this and raises concern, you get butthurt and go to gnarling teeth and whining about it rather than respectfully agreeing to live and let live while everyone enjoys either freedom of or freedom from religion. The First Amendment is there for all Americans.
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challenging every public display of the majority's religion
Cry me a river. We live in a republic. Not a simple democracy. To take a favorite canned line from the right. “Hey if you don’t like it, you can git the frick out! Move to another country commie!”
How about we just live and let live, bro? If militant christian people would learn to keep their religion in their pants, and not expect every American to acquiesce and participate in their favorite religions customs on the American taxpayer dime no less, you wouldn’t need to get so gnarly with your teeth about it anymore. There would be nothing to fight about. What is it young kids used to say? “Don’t start no sh*t won’t be no s**t.”
Respect the militant atheists that died protecting America and the ever diminishing freedoms (due to the militant christian zealots on the supreme court, of course) that all Americans have.
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If we're going to throw out "live and let live", your side is not going to like how that turns out.
As I just said, it’s your side shoving your christian religion on everyone in places that it doesn’t belong rather than living and let live. Keep it in your pants bro.
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