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re: "Big Beautiful Bill" Disaster for America. GOP has failed us. (Redacted & Massie explain)

Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:01 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:01 am to
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What Massie and Paul say sounds great. I wish we had 435 members of congress who thought exactly the way they did.


What about Trump?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476658 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:02 am to
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Thing is we didn't get here in 100 days. What makes you think we fix it in 100 days.


Posted by Earnest_P
Member since Aug 2021
5488 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:02 am to
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Among some myths and misunderstandings, the GOP wouldn't include cuts from the DOGE savings because THEY THEMSELVES were also party to benefiting from the USAID $$$ laundry schemes.


Say what you want, but I don’t know how you can be happy with what has happened since the inauguration in terms of getting spending under contr.

We were all so excited, and what did we get?
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98042 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:03 am to
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Whaaaa??? So, fingers in your ears, "la la lal a la..."



Wtf

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This isn't the Octagon. Or a WWE fantasy bout. This is real life


Yes I know. The real world where beta male Rs just cry rather than doing anything
Posted by Ernaye
Member since Oct 2018
347 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:04 am to
MEL Gibson with a American flag
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61385 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:04 am to
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Well do you? That was the 2 choices we had. One or the other.


Other people were on my ballot. I voted for one of them. I imagine others did as well.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4720 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:06 am to
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If you want to order a rifle scope made in China, why should the govt be moderating your your purchase and punishing you for wrong think?
The government is not. You act like china is producing stuff with slave labor and then selling it here at cost plus 10%. They're not. They are selling it here a couple dollars cheaper than the American product and banking all that profit.

China makes a hammer for $5. American made hammer is 35$. China doesn't sell their hammer for $5.50. They sell their hammer for $29.95 and they profit s the $24.45... When the 100% tarrif hits them, their 30 dollar hammer is now 60 dollars and doesn't sell. So they lower the price of their $30 hammer to $15. The tariff doubles it to $30. Their hammer still sells and they take a $9.50 profit instead....
Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:08 am to
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but true conservatives who love this country will not compromise.




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Then you will lose.


Context: We won't compromise on NOT calling out BS policies and bills and phantom "disclosures" (like the Eppy Files / JFK files) when we see them.

IF we "lose", we won't go down without a fight.

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We have a HUGE spending problem, we agree. Thing is we didn't get here in 100 days. What makes you think we fix it in 100 days. Same as the guy who is 300 pounds over weight is not going to lose all that weight in 100 days. If he cuts back eating too much, he will quit because it is too painful. You have to lose it slowly like you gained it. Same with the debt, we have to work our way up.


Please watch the interview.

Desperate times, desperate measures. The Big Beautiful can is being kicked down the road AGAIN. Congress isn't serious. And neither is the President about reducing spending. Period.

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Why do you people always have to bitch and complain about every darn thing.


The Harris vs Trump quacking was another poster's response to criticism of Trump.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:08 am to
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The government is not.



It's exactly what tariffs are. To usurp your choice to purchase for less.

Why do you need an intermediary?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4720 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:08 am to
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Convenient excuse which excludes Trumps push to raise debt ceilings and add money to the DoD budget.


What is the #1 job of the Federal Government? Protect the country and borders, right?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:09 am to
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Protect the country and borders


Not protect massive corporations through tariffs. Its to protect you from invasion.

Posted by EphesianArmor
Member since Mar 2025
4839 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:10 am to
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The real world where beta male Rs just cry rather than doing anything


The "Betas" are followers and obedient default subordinates. Like you.

The Alphas challenge the status quo and BS snowjobs and gaslighting attempts.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4720 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:10 am to
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To usurp your choice to purchase for less
Bull Shite. No one us usurping anything. What prices have increased due to the tariffs? You watch cnn to dang much.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:11 am to
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Bull Shite. No one us usurping anything.


Whats the purpose of Trumps tariffs? Is it not to change consumer behavior to purchase domestic?

(There are about 6 stated ones, you can pick any)
This post was edited on 5/23/25 at 11:12 am
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4720 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:12 am to
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Not protect massive corporations through tariffs. Its to protect you from invasion.

Don't move the goal post lib. You were bitching about Trump spending money on the DOD. The number one job is combined DEFENSE. Gotta have a well army/outfitted military to protect us from invasion.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98042 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:12 am to
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The "Betas" are followers and obedient default subordinates. Like you.



That makes senss

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The Alphas challenge the status quo and BS snowjobs and gaslighting attempts.


Yeah Massie and Paul are the definition of Alpha
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:12 am to
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Don't move the goal post lib


No one did, Progressive.

The job of govt is to NOT interfere with trade between two companies or individuals.
Posted by CastleBravo
Rapid City, SD
Member since Sep 2013
1827 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:14 am to
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What about Trump?


Trump is not an ideological purist like Massie or Paul. He knows compromises need to be made to get what one wants.

This is like asking "What about Cristiano Ronaldo" while discussing American football.

But you don't argue in good faith, so i am out on any future replies you might post.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299521 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:15 am to
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Trump is not an ideological purist like Massie or Paul.


Which is why he is drifting leftward economically.

Posted by PUB
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2017
20873 posts
Posted on 5/23/25 at 11:16 am to
The country is bankrupt and ALL of CONgress and DC are corrupt with kickbacks and fraud the norm.
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