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re: Ben Shapiro on the Breakfast Club (abortion)
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:29 am to Napoleon
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:29 am to Napoleon
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or severe defects.
This is eugenics.
Just say you are for eugenics.
Then comes the slippery slope. It’s going to have brown eyes, kill it.
And if you don’t believe in slippery slope, see the trans issue.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 7:30 am
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Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:34 am to GurleyGirl
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I see 2 perspectives on the definition of human life: Per Copilot: 1. heartbeat becomes detectable at 6 weeks 2. the fetus because a sentient being at 32 weeks So no matter how you spin it, if an abortion is performed near 32 weeks, a sentient human being is being killed.
Pro-lifers like myself believe life starts at conception. Anything else is simply an arbitrary line and labeling that can be completely manipulated and molded to whatever the pro-abortion side wants.
But in order to argue something like rape/incest in good faith, you have to at least acknowledge that pro-lifers are coming at it from a position that human person is being killed intentionally. From there we can debate whether that intentional killing is justified or not.
Often times pro-abortionists like to jump back and forth between the lump of cells framing to the less common exceptions framing like rape. Which is confusing, because why would pro-lifers care about something that is equivalent to a pineapple or a bowling ball being removed from a woman? Pro-abortionists like to frame it like pro-lifers are really interested and concerned in telling women they can’t remove a benign, inanimate object from their bodies. They are coming at the entire debate in bad faith.
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 7:35 am
Posted on 10/27/25 at 7:38 am to dgnx6
Maybe the rape/incest issue is so important because there are a lot on underage black girls (statutory rape) impregnated by family members (incest).
This post was edited on 10/27/25 at 9:24 am
Posted on 10/27/25 at 8:29 am to burger bearcat
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Pro-lifers like myself believe life starts at conception.
Well I would argue that much like planting a seed that grows into a tree or an egg turning into a chicken while it’s incontrovertible that the process starts with sperm meeting egg, it’s very possible to make a good faith and logical argument that there is a period between conception and birth in which a human being isn’t yet present.
But that’s not what drives most of the pro choice movement. Too often that good faith debate over when it becomes a human is used in bad faith to cover what the obvious truth is: they are looking for an excuse to murder a child that would be inconvenient to their own personal ambitions.
That’s it. They want to enjoy casual sex and lack the impulse control to be bothered to take contraceptives or a morning after pill so they need to be excused from killing it later on because it’s not convenient for them to have the child.
And they get irate over you calling it out for what it is because it messes with their rationalization of what they’ve done.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 9:48 am to dgnx6
In talking about being born missing part of the skull. Being born with severe defects. Not brown eyes.
But this is exactly why it's funny to me that people say they want to have this disscussion then prove that they can't.
But this is exactly why it's funny to me that people say they want to have this disscussion then prove that they can't.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:24 am to LSUSkip
The marxists knew to get there, women must be allowed to vote. Now, the possibilities are endless regarding issues that are emotional to people known for acting on emotion.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:30 am to burger bearcat
Consent to sex is consent to the possibility of pregnancy. Sorry, not sorry.
The crux of the liberal position on this is that people should not be required to face consequences of their own decisions.
The crux of the liberal position on this is that people should not be required to face consequences of their own decisions.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 10:34 am to burger bearcat
It's worth noting that most liberals cannot express what that magic point of delineation is when the fetus undergoes the mystical point of transformation from "a clump of cells" to "a baby".
The only differentiation I can see is a matter of desire on the part of the mother as to whether or not the pregnancy is wanted.
The only differentiation I can see is a matter of desire on the part of the mother as to whether or not the pregnancy is wanted.
Posted on 10/27/25 at 11:44 am to burger bearcat
there are too many perspectives to ever come to a consensus on abortion.
social
emotional
political
no way everyone would ever align
social
emotional
political
no way everyone would ever align
Posted on 10/27/25 at 1:07 pm to burger bearcat
Theater.
It's obviously someone has teed up a beachball to whack for a very dislikable Ben Shapiro. Using his anti-abortion position is about forcing pro-Lifers to root for him while rehabbing his tainted reputation as "just an Izzy-First" shill.
Will people buy the cheap sympathy gambit?
It's obviously someone has teed up a beachball to whack for a very dislikable Ben Shapiro. Using his anti-abortion position is about forcing pro-Lifers to root for him while rehabbing his tainted reputation as "just an Izzy-First" shill.
Will people buy the cheap sympathy gambit?
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