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re: Beauty and the Beast’ Sidekick LeFou Will Have Disney’s First ‘Gay Moment’

Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:10 am to
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:10 am to
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I actually do. It's a primary reason that I'm not overly concerned about a Disney character "indoctrinating" any children.


Indoctrinating is a strong word, but if you think children dont get life concepts from movies, tv and shows you are wrong.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:10 am to
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Its normalization.


and?

Posted by RBWilliams8
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:10 am to
It's a broad statement, guy. I don't consider this one thing as indoctrination but to think collectively all that's going on isn't indoctrination then idk what I to tell you.
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:10 am to
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and?


It's the point people are making.......
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:11 am to
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It's the point people are making.......


then I'll ask this question again

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but is a child being aware of a non normal lifestyle dangerous or bad if that lifestyle isn't ostracized by the majority?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:13 am to
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then I'll ask this question again

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but is a child being aware of a non normal lifestyle dangerous or bad if that lifestyle isn't ostracized by the majority?


In certain cases yes with regards to mental health.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:13 am to
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Indoctrinating is a strong word


Wasn't my word.

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if you think children dont get life concepts from movies, tv and shows you are wrong.


Sure. Gay people exist.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:14 am to
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if you think children dont get life concepts from movies, tv and shows you are wrong.



Disney has been doing gay characters for years. It took me until my teens to get the gay subtexts within them.

I mean shite, Frollo's musical number is about justifying raping and murdering an innocent girl. I didn't get the full gist of that until I was older. Disney has always dabbled in dark shite.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:14 am to
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In certain cases yes with regards to mental health.


expound
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:14 am to
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It's a broad statement, guy.


It's an ignorant statement, bud.

Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:15 am to
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Its normalization.

and?
it shouldn't be normalized
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:21 am to
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quote:
In certain cases yes with regards to mental health.


expound



Mental health issues are higher in the Gay/Trans-community by a noticeable margin. CDC reported LGBT youth are at an increased risk for suicides by twice the amount of their peers.

LINK

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:24 am to
oh

so that is your fear? that normalization will cause your kid to become gay?

Posted by OMLandshark
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:25 am to
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CDC reported LGBT youth are at an increased risk for suicides by twice the amount of their peers.


And you do know why that is, right?
Posted by JayDeerTay84
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:25 am to
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oh

so that is your fear? that normalization will cause your kid to become gay?


No, only that those who think they are see it as normal when the reality of their decision can harm them.

Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:26 am to
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And you do know why that is, right?


IF you think its a single answer, dont be shy.
Posted by PortCityTiger24
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:26 am to
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It's clear both Rattigan and Elsa are flaming homosexuals in the subtext, but kids won't pick up on that.


You are a weird dude
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:27 am to
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And you do know why that is, right?
Partially because they are bullied, partially because there is already a mental imbalance that causes them to be gay/trans
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:27 am to
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No, only that those who think they are see it as normal when the reality of their decision can harm them.


"think"

"decision"

I see where you are coming from



Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 3/2/17 at 9:28 am to
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IF you think its a single answer, dont be shy.



Probably because they are bullied much more and disowned by their families.
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