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re: Baptist pastor who voted for Hillary Clinton attacks Baptists for ‘suppression of women’
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:44 pm to L.A.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:44 pm to L.A.
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The Bible was & is being used & abused to support racism & the suppression of women gifts,” tweeted Dwight McKissic.
You know what the Bible hasn't, and isn't being used to suppress, Mr. McKissic? Moving to a church or denomination that supports your level of wokeness.
Want your church to support female preachers? There's a church for that. Want your church to support men buttfricking each other? There's a church for that. Want your church to support calling evil good, and good, evil? There's a church for that too.
It's the California syndrome. If you want to be a Baptist, come on in, the water's fine. If you want to be a Baptist, but change the Baptist beliefs to be closer to that of another religion, go be the religion that you admire so much.
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Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:45 pm to SSpaniel
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Dwight McKissic
Who? Never heard of the guy. Apparently, he's not really all that prominent.
He's one of the prominent influencers in the woke wing of the SBC. Old guard SBC types may not know who he is, but he's one the guys woke evnagelicals take their cues from.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:47 pm to L.A.
He can call himself a pastor all he wants but he ain't one. No true person of the cloth would believe that rubbish he is spouting
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:49 pm to Flats
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You think those are ego-proof? Who gets a solo, or who gets the most input into which hymns are sung this Sunday? People with pride issues will always find a proxy for their sense of self-worth. It might be the paint color for the new classroom, who organizes the pot-luck lunch, whatever.
My church doesn't have one but I don't see why praise bands would be any more susceptible to that than any other activity where somebody is going to get to make a decision. People who like to stir up trouble will always find a way, and it's up to leadership to recognize it and squash it before it becomes an issue.
You're right but at least the methodist church I grew up going to, we had a "worship leader" but he/she would be among the choir for all the hymns and would occassionally come out to do a solo on Sunday. He/she would be the only one to ever do solos.
I still "follow" a lot of these people I participated in the mission program with on Instagram and pretty much all of them started their own church so they could be the worship leader. Then they post pictures of their worship sessions and there are like 10 people there, probably just family and close friends.
This church I did this at was in California, I had no connection to it before or after I did the program.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:51 pm to Quidam65
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I've heard even worse, that some churches hire band members with NO requirement that the musician even be a Christian. You would think that MIGHT be important.
I've long suspected this. A church I went to in Dallas had a worship leader who seemed to always be plugging his own songs he wrote/recorded. He'd play them during worship and no one would know the lyrics. And they weren't really "worship friendly" songs even with the lyrics on the projector since it was more of a slow moving song intended to be sung solo. I feel like he would put the song in the set list to promote himself and his own vocal abilities rather than put songs in there that were more worship friendly. Then when the song(s) were over he'd pitch his CDs for sale in the lobby.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:54 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
That's not the worst. I visited a church about a month ago where the guitarist played a solo of "House of the Rising Sun".
And NOT as one of those sermon series where the pastor takes a popular song and somehow ties the words to a message for today.
As a solo instrumental.
Needless to say I haven't and won't be back.
And NOT as one of those sermon series where the pastor takes a popular song and somehow ties the words to a message for today.
As a solo instrumental.
Needless to say I haven't and won't be back.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:55 pm to airlinehwypanhandler
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I still "follow" a lot of these people I participated in the mission program with on Instagram and pretty much all of them started their own church so they could be the worship leader.
That's just sad. I would personally never attend a church where the pastor was anything but a salaried employee who answers to the congregation. Every church I've seen where the pastor essentially owns the church like you would own a business goes south in a bad way.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 12:58 pm to L.A.
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He's one of the prominent influencers in the woke wing of the SBC. Old guard SBC types may not know who he is, but he's one the guys woke evnagelicals take their cues from.
Ah... that' explains it. There's many things I am. Woke, however, isn't one of them. Near as I can tell, my church isn't woke either.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:01 pm to SSpaniel
quote:Same here. I consider it a blessing. However, here in California lots of the young hip woke pastors love this guy
Near as I can tell, my church isn't woke either.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:22 pm to anc
Most "evangelical" churches are cucked already.
They don't even believe in the supremacy of Christianity, or that Christ was the Messiah for everyone.
They don't even believe in the supremacy of Christianity, or that Christ was the Messiah for everyone.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:26 pm to MrLarson
quote:That's quite the cynical approach to something we're commanded to do. Yes, the Church is made up of sinners, but it's why we are supposed to hold each other accountable to Christ.
I don't think it's just the mega churches any more. That is one of the reasons I won't step foot in a church today. Nothing but snakes everywhere you look. It's really sad.
All Christians need to be fed by the means of grace that God has given us. We all need to help and to be helped by the other members of the body.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 1:29 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:28 pm to Numberwang
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Most "evangelical" churches are cucked already.
They don't even believe in the supremacy of Christianity, or that Christ was the Messiah for everyone.
Um.... I guess I'm in the wrong circles as far as churches go, or my head is just on straight and I don't pay attention to all the hip, woke crap. Or know how to weed out the false teachings and what not, because I don't see this in the churches and pastors that I attend/listen to. And if i did, I'd run the other direction.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:41 pm to Numberwang
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They don't even believe in the supremacy of Christianity, or that Christ was the Messiah for everyone.
You have Evangelicals mixed up with Mainline denominations. Most Mainline groups have long left Biblical Christianity.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:51 pm to Quidam65
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You have Evangelicals mixed up with Mainline denominations
Not at all. I'm referring to Scofield political Xtianity like what John Hagee sells, and what most evangelicals believe some version of these days. I'm talking about the de-legitimizing of who Christ said he is, in service of political Zionism.
Evangelical Christianity is a neutered junior religion, subservient and secondary to Judaism, and bound by Dispensationalist doomsday beliefs via twisted interpretations of Revelation.
I agree that the bible is clear about women not preaching to or being in authority over men. It's clear about a lot of things that were undermined by the Scofield Bible's twisted interpretations.
Scofield interpretations are the foundational theology of Baptists and most evangelicals.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 1:54 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:54 pm to Numberwang
Zionism is certainly based on a pre-mil dispensationalist view of eschatology. I can't think of anything more blasphemous than Christians actively supporting the rebuilding of the temple and going back to the types and shadows of animal sacrifice after Christ's once-for-all sacrificial atonement on the cross.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 7/22/19 at 1:54 pm to Quidam65
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You have Evangelicals mixed up with Mainline denominations.
The categorization of "Evangelicals" has always puzzled me. Isn't every Christian body of believers supposed to evangelize others? Is there a particular reason a Christian church wouldn't want to be considered evangelical?
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:01 pm to Flats
quote:Yeah, it's kind of like how "fundamentalist" has taken on such a negative connotation these days. It used to be that a fundamentalist was just a Christian who rejected the higher criticism of liberal Christianity and supported the "fundamentals" of the faith that were being rejected in the face of science and philosophical enlightenment. Now it's just a euphemism for a crazy legalistic Christian who hates everyone.
The categorization of "Evangelicals" has always puzzled me. Isn't every Christian body of believers supposed to evangelize others? Is there a particular reason a Christian church wouldn't want to be considered evangelical?
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:11 pm to Numberwang
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I'm talking about the de-legitimizing of who Christ said he is, in service of political Zionism.
I attend a pretty conservative Baptist church and haven't encountered this, although I admit I don't really follow what other denominations or even other Baptist churches are doing. Would you expound?
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:18 pm to Flats
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I attend a pretty conservative Baptist church and haven't encountered this, although I admit I don't really follow what other denominations or even other Baptist churches are doing. Would you expound?
Same here. There's nothing zionist about my church. And certainly nothing about de-legitimizing Christ.
Perhaps y'all are focusing on the wrong churches.
Posted on 7/22/19 at 2:23 pm to Flats
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I attend a pretty conservative Baptist church and haven't encountered this, although I admit I don't really follow what other denominations or even other Baptist churches are doing. Would you expound?
I can speak for Madison, MS.
There are three major Baptist churches. I suspect this is similar across the South.
First Baptist Madison is your traditional Baptist church. It has the families that have been there forever, it has generational appeal. There is a choir in choir robes. Its a large version of a church you'd expect to have a graveyard next to it. Those families worship together, they bond, they love each other. But they are all the same. Not a lot of diversity here.
Pinelake Church is the hip megachurch that meets in an old warehouse. Its where the cool kids go. There are great kids programs and the music is close to a rock concert than it is church. They have the "Come as You Are" mentality. You might see a guy in a suit and you might see a tatted up 20-something in an affliction t-shirt. You also get a variety of theological views. You have dispies, you have Reformed, you have charismatics. It's weird.
Broadmoor is the hybrid of these two churches with a twist. They love them some Merica. During patriotic holidays, there are about 200 flags outside their building lining the streets. They are huge Zionist dispensationalists and They love them some Trump, and many of their attendees are the most political in town.
This post was edited on 7/22/19 at 2:24 pm
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