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re: Bakhmut has Fallen - Wagner Announces Capture of Bakhmut

Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:54 pm to
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I mourn for the elderly and children of Ukraine. I pray for peace in that convulsed land.


Hopefully most have gotten out.
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
116517 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 12:59 pm to
Russia just needs to get this over with.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
55863 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:01 pm to
IMHO Russia can go another 4 years. I don't think that Ukraine can hold out that long.
Posted by texas tortilla
houston
Member since Dec 2015
4815 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:02 pm to
now it's on to odessa.
Posted by yimbo
Member since Nov 2022
404 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:17 pm to
Especially if you have a weak military like russia
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Especially if you have a weak military like russia


Wonder why our 100 billion hasn't defeated this weak military?
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:21 pm to
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Russia just needs to get this over with.



Why don't they? Are they having too much fun, or something?

I mean, frick all this fighting in the south, Putin should've just sent his army on an end around and just swept out of the north and taken Kyiv and ended the whole thing in a week. Surely the Ukrainian army could never stand up to the full might of the Russian army in an all-out offensive, right?
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
39037 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:23 pm to
Ukraine isn't meant to win this. Just bleed out Russia as much as they can.
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:23 pm to
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At the end of the day it's numbers and training,
They say 3+ to 1 ratio - is unable to overcome...
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:25 pm to
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According to the twatter, this is the first city captured by a private army vs a government military who is US-backed.

Bigly oof
But at least DEI is still a factor in US Army
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:30 pm to
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In a video posted on Telegram, Wagner head Yevgeny Prigozhin said the city came under complete Russian control at about midday Saturday. He spoke flanked by about half a dozen fighters, with ruined buildings in the background and explosions heard in the distance.


Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
15769 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:32 pm to
Hey, when’s that Ukrainian offensive you Neocons promised three months ago gonna start?
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38334 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:32 pm to
And in just under a year! I’m sure that’s what Putin was aiming for when he started this war. Kyiv should fall right around the time of the next ice age.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
45103 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:33 pm to
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Russia just needs to get this over with.


quote:

Why don't they? Are they having too much fun, or something?


Fun? I don’t believe so. War is hell.

However, they are:

1. Using lots of conscripts…many of which are from Muslim areas that have been problematic in the past.
As an added bonus, they are using ancient equipment instead of 5th generation capabilities, and are still finding success.

2. Strengthening their ties with China, Iran, and Turkey.

3. Bleeding the US military capacity (no matter what CitzenCCP says, we aren’t “re-stocking” or getting new armament without rare Earth elements from China - which means we are beholden to the CCP).

4. Burdening the US taxpayer and dividing the population.

5. Devaluation of the US dollar (it would have happened to a degree no matter what, but this proxy war has exacerbated things).

6. Russia is still making money off of their natural resources (even if they are being sold on the cheap).

And lastly…

7. Russia is still going to get territory in the eastern half of Ukraine, the only question is how much.

TLDR…Putin is probably enjoying dealing with Biden and friends.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38334 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Russia just needs to get this over with.


If they could they would numb nuts. You Xi/ Iran cock gobblers will have to settle for a peace settlement. Russia took 9-10 months for fricking Bakhmut.
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 1:38 pm
Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:39 pm to
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Why don't they? Are they having too much fun, or something?


They're bleeding the west as much as possible first. This is obvious now. How much more will we send to Ukraine just to make our politicians and Raytheon rich?

"As much as necessary!" - YOU
This post was edited on 5/20/23 at 1:42 pm
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
38334 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:41 pm to
Durr we didn’t mean to take forever to capture one town a million miles from Kiev, it was strategy! Durrr!
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:42 pm to
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Hey, when’s that Ukrainian offensive you Neocons promised three months ago gonna start?


Its not necessary, the money is freely flowing.

Posted by Jack Carter
Member since Sep 2018
12200 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Durr we didn’t mean to take forever to capture one town a million miles from Kiev, it was strategy! Durrr!


Just watch, fool. Let's see how long it takes for it to dawn upon you that you've been fed nothing but lies. If the Pentagon leak didn't wake you up, then it might take a long time. Stupid people need a lot of time to wake up. Give it time, dummy
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 5/20/23 at 1:45 pm to
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Hey, when’s that Ukrainian offensive you Neocons promised three months ago gonna start?

I ain't promised shite.

But why can't Putin just get this over with?
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