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re: Azov Battalion vs. Putin's Wagner Group Mercenaries Truth and Facts.

Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:34 pm to
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:34 pm to
remember Victoria Nuland?



LINK


LINK
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 5:38 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:38 pm to
Not arguing that. I agree. But my point was that eastern Europe has had a very dark, complicated history. Communism, Nazis, war, Stalin, etc. has left that part of the world scarred in many aspects. 100 years of pure hell. Millions died. That environment has created some monsters. Everyone should read or listen to: Bloodlands. Europe Between Hitler and Stalin. Everyone needs to search for the facts.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:38 pm to
Yes I do. She is a bitch.
Posted by Smokeyone
Maryville Tn
Member since Jul 2016
21137 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:39 pm to
So one group with verified neo nazi roots and ties. The other is named after a classical musician.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:44 pm to
Have trouble accepting facts? Doesn't fit your narrative? So you think the Wagner Group are the good guys?

Both sides have bad people. Putin is not a hero in this. He did not do this so that you don't have to suffer the consequences of globalism. And I am not a globalist.
Posted by DWaginHTown
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2006
10204 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:48 pm to
Wags of the world, unite!!
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50522 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:50 pm to
quote:

Yes I do. She is a bitch.



you're rooting for her
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50522 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:54 pm to
AU86 is my boy, but he's not seeing it


Good post Smokey
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:56 pm to
Nope. I am rooting for the people of Ukraine.

Biden and his family are corrupt scum. Nuland and the neocons are vile people but Putin is no saint. Those scum bag Biden's could take lessons from him on how to steal money. But they both have another common aspect: they are both in the bed with the Chicoms.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:57 pm to
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and ISIS


And Al-Qaeda in Dagestan, Chechnya and beyond.
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
24857 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:57 pm to
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Not arguing that.


My comments aren’t directed at you baw! Nothing I post about this molten cauldron of competing geopolitical factions will come as a surprise to you.



I just can’t resist the opportunity to turn any discussion along these lines back to our nation’s own corrupted national security apparatus — it is such an easy target! But in all seriousness, that is where all these discussions should begin and end.


Posted by Strannix
C.S.A.
Member since Dec 2012
53725 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:59 pm to
National Socialism was a product of Bolshevism, sooner or later you have to pick a side. It was an easy choice for many, I know which camp I would have been in
Posted by 14&Counting
Dallas, TX
Member since Jul 2012
42081 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:01 pm to
Wagner Group are some nasty pieces of work with documented war crimes in Syria and Africa.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63689 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:03 pm to
You e been melting hard over this.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50522 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:03 pm to
frick

so are you rooting for the people of Russia too?

you know who the biggest victims of the USSR were? The people of Russia

you're being stubborn

I've said this to you before and I'll say it again, the Nazi's are in charge of the communists in this struggle



look at it this way:


no one can "make the world safe for Democracy"....especially not our corrupt as shite govt



stop rooting for Rome
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:04 pm to
We have two sides, two corrupt systems that have used many parts of the world as their pawn. Both sides are guilty. But my point is the ordinary, innocent common people are always the ones who suffer or die.

Ukraine should declare neutrality like Finland or Austria but neither side will ever let it stabilize or reach it's potential. It will always be used as a.piece on the geopolitical chess board.
Posted by Lieutenant Dan
Member since Jan 2009
8444 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:06 pm to
Interesting.


Tell us who trained this Azov battalion.

(It was in 2014)
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:11 pm to
quote:

You e been melting hard over this.


We are all going to pay a price for this I'm afraid. If not in war, in our pocket books. This is not a good situation and could have been prevented. Could get much worse. I think that 100% on here would agree with that.

He would have never invaded if Trump was in office.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50522 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:13 pm to
quote:

But my point is the ordinary, innocent common people are always the ones who suffer or die.




like the people of Donbas for the past eight plus years maybe?
Posted by Zahrim
McCamey Texas
Member since Mar 2009
8152 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 6:14 pm to
stealing
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