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Azov Battalion vs. Putin's Wagner Group Mercenaries Truth and Facts.

Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:55 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:55 pm
I have noticed a lot of posts referring to Ukraine and the Azov Battalion and Neo Nazis. But I have seen very little posted about Putin's Wagner Group of mercenaries that he has used in Mali, Syria, Crimea and the Donbass. Lets compare the two groups.

The Azov Battalion originated in western Ukraine and has been funded by an Oligarch. They have been tied to Neo-Nazis and about an estimated 20% of that battalion identify or have neo Nazi ties/ideology. There are some Neo-Nazis in the battalion. About 20,000 Ukrainians served in the Waffen SS in WWII. 4.5 million served in the Red Army.
The association to facism in Ukraine can be tied to Stepan Andriyovych Bander who was an Ukrainian ultra nationalist who cooperated with the Nazis during the occupation in hopes of establishing an independent Ukraine free from the Soviet Union. Go look up his history.

Now lets look at Putin's Wagner Group. It was started by a Neo-Nazi by the name of Dmitry Utkin (go look him up). He is a former officer in the GRU special forces. He named the group after the famed German composer Richard Wagner. He chose the name based on his passion for the Third Reich and Wagner was Hitler's personal favorite. As stated earlier, Putin has used these forces in Crimea and the Donbass. The group is also reportedly funded by one of Putin's closest Oligarchs: Yevgeny Prigozhin (aka: Putin's Chef).
The Azov Battalion first saw combat action in 2014 fighting against the Russian separatists and the Wagner Group in the defense of Mariupol in the Donbass.

Putin has used his Neo Nazi and the Wagner Group for years in many countries and conflicts, but he is invading Ukraine to rid it of Nazis. LOL.

Seems both sides have some Neo-Nazis on their side.

Rut roh.



This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 5:00 pm
Posted by BayouBlitz
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:57 pm to
Putin lovers won't like this.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:58 pm to
brother, western Ukraine's Nazi links go all the way back to WWII/Hitler and they're not incidental



Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 4:59 pm to
Its weird how your team likes neo nazis now
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:01 pm to
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Putin lovers won't like this.



there's no Putin lovers on here you simpleton


but there's some truth lovers
Posted by MFn GIMP
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:02 pm to
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Putin lovers won't like this

I hope they kill each other.
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:02 pm to
Stated in my OP. But Putin's Wagner Group have some goose steppers also.

Glad to see you back.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 5:04 pm
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:06 pm to
This reads like Russian propaganda aimed to make Ukraine look much worse. Significant percentage of their battalion known to ascribe to fascism plus they go into historical detail versus The Russia one is named after Wagner who's a Nazi hero and that's all they say
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 5:06 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
50514 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:07 pm to
quote:

Seems both sides have some Neo-Nazis on their side.



because some guy was Hitler's favorite music composer?

Rommel was Hitler's favorite field marshall, but Rommel was not a Nazi, btw


Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
50514 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:09 pm to
Please tell me you aren't using wacko lunatic Wikipedia on this Wagner group info


Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:09 pm to
quote:

This reads like Russian propaganda aimed to make Ukraine look much worse.


That is exactly what it is. Putin is also using it on the Russian people to play on their hatred for the Nazis to bolster their support for his war.
Posted by Gaggle
Member since Oct 2021
7286 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:11 pm to
I think it's actually scraping the bottom of the barrel to find a connection to Nazism for Russia also since people are learning about the Ukraine's (which itself is minor). See, they're Nazis too! But people don't read it. It's already worked in this thread.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 5:12 pm
Posted by AU86
Member since Aug 2009
26257 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:12 pm to
Nope. There are many, many sources that I referenced. Just have to look them up. Also heard a former CIA agent talking about the Wagner Group.

The Wagner Group is the bunch that got waxed in Syria by those US forces. They were mowed down like dogs.
This post was edited on 3/4/22 at 5:15 pm
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
Foggy Bottom Law School
Member since Nov 2013
50514 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:16 pm to
going to just repond to my own post and do this


smfh
Posted by flyAU
Member since Dec 2010
24900 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:21 pm to
quote:

there's no Putin lovers on here you simpleton


There was literally a thread named “putin appreciation”. It got whacked. Not everyone is that retarded but we do have them in here.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
50514 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:21 pm to
brother, if this Dmitry Utkin was a nazi, he would have already been in a married to Putin narrative in the warmonger media and plastered all over the NY Times, CNN, FOX, all the NBC's, BBC, etc


He would have been a household name two weeks ago or 6 months ago
Posted by Kjnstkmn
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:23 pm to
There’s horrible people on both sides
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:26 pm to
quote:

Seems both sides have some Neo-Nazis on their side.


Now do CIA funding of Muslim terror cells throughout Central Asia and the Caucasus in the 1990s and 2000s and you will have a trifecta!

Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Member since Nov 2013
50514 posts
Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:32 pm to
and ISIS
Posted by Toomer Deplorable
Team Bitter Clinger
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 3/4/22 at 5:32 pm to
quote:

There’s horrible people on ALL sides


FIFY!



Anyone claiming the United States and NATO have not contributed to the escalation of geopolitical tensions in the region is a propagandist.
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