re: AZ Senate Passes 'Right to Discriminate' Bill

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That is the rub, isn't it? It seems perfectly sensible that if I don't like you I shouldn't have to do business with you. I am fine with this also as long as the business who does not want to do business with certain groups does not accept any assistance of any sort in managing their business from the state which is financed, in part, by the groups who they wish not to trade with. For example, no access to the courts. AFter all I am sure that if you have a customer who won't pay their bills you would not want to use any money that gay people remitted as taxes to run the court system as a tool to collect that bad debt. Your religious beliefs would certainly prevent you from calling on the courts, financed by gay people, to act as your muscle. The same is true of police protection, use of public highways and all sorts of other things that gay people and other groups you don't like help pay for.

Of course this would be impossible I know...so why not prevent any business who makes these types of decisions from using the court system for ANY purpose, including bankruptcy protection when their stupid decision making forces them to abandon their creditors?



That is a horrible, horrible argument.

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Those that make sense often are...


How can a person who decides to pick and choose which parts of society they want to participate in (and an individual should have that right) also expect society to protect them equally?

Seriously, if you so opposed to homosexuality, and you have the right to be, why would you accept the assistance of homosexuals in settling any disputes that may arise during the course of your business operations? Homosexuals pay taxes....taxes are used to run the courts, provide police protection, fire protection, streets for customers to drive to your business...all of these things make your business possible and they are partially paid for by homosexuals. Why on earth would you not trade with them based on religious principles yet allow them to assist you in the affairs of your business? It would not be possible, of course, to deny such a business access to streets and the protection of the US Military but it would be a very simple thing to provide a wall between them and their right to use the court system as a collection agency OR as protection should their business model prove inadequate and bankruptcy become unavoidable. I seriously think if you really do not like homosexuality based on religious grounds then you would be more than willing to do everything in your power to make certain that you never enjoyed any benefits that the homosexuals among us helped provide.

GayPatriot gets it.

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So, why don’t we just cut to the chase and pass laws making it illegal not to like gay people; with fines and criminal penalties for anyone who uses any word, gesture, expression or behavior that any gay person judges to be insufficiently supportive of his or her lifestyle?The penalties could include mandatory sensitivity training at the offender’s expense; thus providing employment to otherwise utterly useless Gender Studies graduates.

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He's funny and sad at the same time. This is where we're headed.

Who could have seen this coming?

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David Cooley, the founder of The Abbey Food & Bar located at 692 North Robertson Blvd., has announced the popular gay bar will add any legislator in any state who votes for “bills to allow for discrimination against LGBT people” to a “Deny Entry List.”

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“I want to send a message to all those people out there who conflate Christian values with discrimination: we don’t want your kind here,” Cooley said. “I’ve learned that I can’t stop crazy, ignorant or stupid, but I can stop it from coming through my doors.”

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He'll get an Obama Freedom Medal.

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quote: “I want to send a message to all those people out there who conflate Christian values with discrimination: we don’t want your kind here,” Cooley said. “I’ve learned that I can’t stop crazy, ignorant or stupid, but I can stop it from coming through my doors.”

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He probably doesn't even recognize the irony

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He probably doesn't even recognize the irony

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Irony?
There is no irony.

He's a "protected class."
That makes his target an individual who is unequal and inferior under the law. The natural extension is for him to view it as his government-given right to demean, belittle and exclude such lesser citizens.

The Abbey is the most overpriced place on the planet. One cheap drink will cost you $18 and it ain't that great.

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I think that offering cake toppers to one couple but not another because you know...icky lesbians is discrimination.

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Then you are stupid.


Discrimination, especially as implied by your posting of civil rights pictures in lieu of replies of legit counters to your claims, means you won't serve them anything because, you know, icky lesbians.




What kind of delusional world you live in where a company would be fine serving anyone, but if a company doesn't offer a service you like, it is discrimination.

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“I want to send a message to all those people out there who conflate Christian values with discrimination: we don’t want your kind here,” Cooley said. “I’ve learned that I can’t stop crazy, ignorant or stupid, but I can stop it from coming through my doors.”

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and interestingly, I'm sure the ones on the banned list will just continue walking down the street and find another place to get a drink, all with their collective panties neatly in place and not in a big wad.

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and interestingly, I'm sure the ones on the banned list will just continue walking down the street and find another place to get a drink, all with their collective panties neatly in place and not in a big wad.

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I'm envisioning long lines of Christian zealots shrugging their shoulders with a dejected look on their faces because they can't get into a gay bar.

The place is in the middle of West Hollywood (aka Boys Town) so it's more obvious than wandering past St. Peter's (still makes me laugh) on Bourbon in the quarter.