re: Axios is trying to say Trump is losing independents because of deportations.

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The time for a different method than ICE

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I didn't say not to use ICE. I said how ICE is being used.

I'll just put it this way, ICE covering their faces isn't a good sign, both in terms of optics or public support. It's a heavy signal that how they were used may not have been the best, and the policy of covering faces is doubling down on the bad policy.

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What is the more rational way to make people who dont want to leave go back to their country?

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That's a bad framing. What's a more rational policy generally? Do what the admin said they were going to do and focus on the criminals and violent offenders first. That has MAJOR support of the public.

Yes he should do it through legislation lol you mean the same legislature that wouldn’t codify even the most basic budget cuts, or the legislature that can’t even pass voter ID laws. You “rational independents” are nothing more than moderate Democrats who want nothing to change but claim you do

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The only people cheering ice on are hard core maga.

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Bull shite.

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2 years with a GOP controlled Congress means that every campaign goal could have been achieved with legislation

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You're going to get the talking point that Congress isn't passing anything, ignoring how the Trump admin wanted the huge BBB last year and how they haven't been proposing shite for legislation, even after being shown the admin can/will with the healthcare policy reports yesterday

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What does it say to the world if we allow "the nonviolent ones" to stay? You are essentially saying, open borders are fine, as long as you aren't violent.

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I imagine the vast majority of the country is fine with this policy.

Productive illegal aliens, especially if they're not on the dole are not hated by most people like you seem to.

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Yes he should do it through legislation lol you mean the same legislature that wouldn’t codify even the most basic budget cuts, or the legislature that can’t even pass voter ID laws.

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Then he needs to use his power and influence to make them do it, that's not an excuse. Everyone agrees Congress are a bunch of lazy pieces of shite, but that doesn't mean that our structure of government simply goes out of the window.

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You “rational independents” are nothing more than moderate Democrats who want nothing to change but claim you do

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I am neither, but nice ad hominem.

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When are you going to realize that you are nothing more than a cartoon to this board masquerading as a moderate conservative?

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I'm not even a moderate conservative

Only people relying on strawmen or ignorance paint my views that way, especially being one of the few remaining capitalists in the era of Trump's leftist economic policies

I don’t believe it. He’s got majority support on the issue.

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To an extent, sure, but in a democracy, being popular and being part of the general consensus matters a great deal.

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The US is not a democracy.

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This is emotional

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What’s emotional is obstructing ice agents from doing their jobs. Therefore the RATIONAL solution is to provide them with assistance to do said job. See how that works?

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The only people cheering ice on are hard core maga.

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I am a registered Independent and hold political views that are to the left of most people on this board and I support what ICE is doing.

The optics look bad because media is portraying it that way. They have to in order to generate clicks. No different than the weather man standing in the ditch during a hurricane to act like there is serious flooding.

All smoke and mirrors.