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re: Automobile Tariffs - 25%

Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:47 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:47 pm to
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So he is doing what Reagan did and that resulted in over 100K jobs in the USA.


Youre so dumb
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:50 pm to
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fricking American Auto business is about to become more greedy.

This is a gift to BiGCorp who we continually have to bail out.


Why?

This will hurt Ford, GM and Stellantis potentially just as bad as the "foreign" brands. Ford and GM have more foreign made cars than domestic.

Domestically produced BMW, Toyoda, Nissan and Mercedes can avoid these tariffs.
Posted by HubbaBubba
North of DFW, TX
Member since Oct 2010
51474 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:51 pm to
So, they are "assembled" in the US?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:51 pm to
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and Mercedes in Alabama. As a matter of fact, Germany is moving production of some of the Mercedes that were only manufactured in Germany to the Vance plant.


Along with Kia and Hyundai.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:51 pm to
Because everyone, including Domestics, will raise prices.

Its a subsidy.
Posted by chryso
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
13663 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:56 pm to
That doesn't sound reciprocal.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:56 pm to
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So, they are "assembled" in the US


Yes

He said that US made parts assembled into vehicles in foreign countries would not be tariffed. Meaning a portion of the vehicle value would get a pass, but not the entire thing.

I'm sure the inverse applied as well. ie-Foreign parts will be tariffed on vehicles assembled in the US.

*For those that do not know, assembly plants do not make most of the parts in a car. They assemble parts from many factories into a car.
Posted by jizzle6609
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
19680 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:57 pm to
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both bmw and mercedes build about half their world wide production in south carolina and alabama, every SUV they build are built in the united states. with the exception of the G wagon.


Well fml.

Falling on sword.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 4:58 pm
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19185 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 4:58 pm to
What’s wild is there’s probably more Kia’s made in America than Chevy Silverados
Posted by Dog Tree
Member since Sep 2019
562 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:01 pm to
Well there's been a 25% tariff on pickup trucks for like the last 50-60 years.
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:04 pm to
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The United States last year imported nearly 8 million cars and light trucks worth $244 billion. Mexico, Japan and South Korea were the top sources of foreign vehicles. Imports of auto parts came to more than $197 billion, led by Mexico, Canada and China, according to the Commerce Department.


The tariffs cover the supply chain as well.

https://www.wxyz.com/news/trump-places-25-tariff-on-imported-autos-expecting-to-raise-100-billion-in-tax-revenues

*The above numbers show the "$600 billion to 1 trillion dollars in tariffs" he expects to get over the "next year or two" is ridiculous and just another example of him throwing out bullshite which his loyal fans lap up.
This post was edited on 3/26/25 at 5:14 pm
Posted by Figgy
CenCal
Member since May 2020
10235 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:05 pm to
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It will cause inflation, and for what?


Because "frick 'em" seems to be the rationale?
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
69923 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:10 pm to
I agree!

I don’t see this resulting the way he intends it. It’ll be too late by the time more cars are fully produced here
Posted by Warboo
Enterprise Alabama
Member since Sep 2018
5886 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:14 pm to
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So he is doing what Reagan did and that resulted in over 100K jobs in the USA. Youre so dumb


Why is stating a fact dumb?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:17 pm to
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Why is stating a fact dumb?

Its a half truth.

The downside of the quotas accelerated the Japanese auto industry.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12708 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:19 pm to
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fair pricing


I don't think you understand what he's saying.

If more expensive foreign cars become even more expensive than they are now due to tariffs, the domestically produced cars will go up in price also.

Competition keeps prices down. Lack of competition means that the manufacturers will charge more because they can. Which is the opposite of fair pricing.

quote:

fair treatment


What does that even mean?

quote:

American jobs


If enough jobs to build the foreign cars that currently end up being sold in America all ended up being relocated here, you wouldn't be talking about very many jobs. As other people have pointed out, depending upon what Trump means, not many manufacturers would be impacted by these tariffs (hopefully the case) because pretty much all cars are manufactured both here and abroad (partially here, partially abroad). Even Ford and Chevy.

The rebuttal to that is that if it doesn't affect many manufacturers then it will have little impact on the market in any sense, which is what I hope is the case.



Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
96943 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:21 pm to
The middle class will cease to exist- Wackatimes
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
12708 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:21 pm to
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The tariffs cover the supply chain as well.


It would seem that that would then include even auto manufacturers we think of as being domestic, yes?

Every major auto maker relies on parts from overseas.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
27831 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:22 pm to
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If more expensive foreign cars become even more expensive than they are now due to tariffs, the domestically produced cars will go up in price also.


Nah, those salesmen will leave all that on the table. They'll do that, won't they?

Just like they do when they put surcharges on hot models and sell them for $20k over list.
Posted by texag7
College Station
Member since Apr 2014
41165 posts
Posted on 3/26/25 at 5:22 pm to
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fricking American Auto business is about to become more greedy.


You have no problem with foreign auto makers being greedy.

Why are you so anti-American?
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