re: At what point, exactly, did the communist take control of the US?

Without the blood and iron approach the Bolsheviks showed the world in 1917, it's difficult to put an actual date on the extent of its influence.

However they did show how it could be done quickly and overwhelmingly by force.

But the communists by 1922 had realized that not enough of the poor, downtrodden proletariat they had so counted on had offered themselves up as cannon fodder for the Revolution.
Maybe it was the pogroms and fire bombings that turned them off.

Resulting in the hastily called meeting at the Marx-Engels Institute in Moscow to discuss why.

Willi Munzenberg and Georgy Lukacs were among the "schoolers" present and convinced the others that they and their compatriots in Frankfurt had all the slick, behavioral methodologies in place to destroy the West from within.

Enter the neo-Marxists who incredibly were blindly, naively allowed in here during the war, given carte blanche access to our institutions, and here we are.

(It's already been mentioned here that their aspiration then became focused on what they called "the new proletariat." originally conceptualized by Gramsci.)

Our ill-advised leaders at the time made them feel so secure, insulated and comfortable in their new digs, that one of them blatantly, openly admitted their plans for the West with this taunt:

We will gradually infiltrate their educational institutions and their political offices, transforming them slowly into Marxist entities as we move towards universal egalitarianism.

~ Max Horkheimer


Anyone recall the above quote being offered for class discussion, by what ever the propaganda mill.

Whether it was even mentioned in cultural anthropology, Sociology, Psychology, International Relations, Comparative Government, or Political Theory.

Even in the little 1-hour class Americanism vs. Communism it wasn't mentioned. It was all about Karl.

More evidence of how it's not so much what academia and media told us; it's what they didn't tell us.

But it's key pivot took place in the series of 10 "Macy Conferences" between 1946 and '53. A series of conclaves where all the planning was discussed and coordinated on how to use man and machines (cybernetics) to spread the poison among the unwary.

That's why Horkheimer's quote should be emblazoned on billboards tactically placed across the land and hollered from the mountaintops to let those in charge of our lives know that we're at least aware now of how we've been shucked by an increasingly corrupt system.

Seems from over here that the eventual "takeover" is still in the works, continuing to creep and metastasize as would any malignancy - with relatively little pushback.

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It started when we imported the Frankfurt school.

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Nah we imported the Frankfurt School because it had already started.

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Nah we imported the Frankfurt School because it had already started.

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What American academics were leading the charge? Serious question.

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Well Franz Boas was well on his way by that point in academia.

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There’s not a paper’s width of difference between Boas and the Frankfurt school. But good information.

Yeah. Dewey is a good example.

When we freed China from Japan.

And when we shook hands with Stalin.

And then in 1997 Hong Kong, a major economic center that was under British control, went back to Coms.

I’d point mostly to FDR.

Excellent. Thanks!

I’m a leftist. Like, a big one. I hate capitalism, I support abortion on demand, and I unironically use phrases like “systems of oppression” and “the dominant culture.” The last big paper I put together for my undergraduate degree was on critical race theory, for the love of God!

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When Joseph McCarthy was silenced.

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FDR had numerous communists in his cabinet and staff. McCarthy in the 50s was the last to try to root them out.

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It wasn’t near as bad then as it is nowdays but even as a kid growing up in the 70s McCarthy’s name was thoroughly demonized in text books, television documentaries, etc.

The communists have been stealthily playing the long game for a long, long time.

We thought the matter was finally settled with the fall of the Berlin Wall.

Irony has been a b**ch (unfortunately).