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re: Asian store owner fights back. Thwarts robbery and stabs thug multiple times
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:41 am to thetempleowl
Posted on 8/7/22 at 7:41 am to thetempleowl
quote:. Sounds like he feared for his life.
The whole time I was a little bit nervous because obviously I was getting robbed,” said Johnny Nguyen. “I was really scared for my life because they were wearing baggy clothes... one of them came in with a bag as if he had a firearm,” Nguyen explained. I honestly don't recall what I was thinking," he told News 3 when asked about what went through his mind as he reacted. "I assumed they had guns on them .
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Las Vegas Metropolitan Police tell FOX5 News two juveniles were arrested, and one more is still outstanding.
Sounds like they don't have any interest in arresting the store owner.
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Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:12 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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The owner will have to justify himself by saying he thought he needed to preemptively attack because he was somehow threatened. The video doesn’t appear to show a threat, implied or otherwise, just an attempt to steal.
I'd say jumping the counter while wearing a mask is a fairly universal sign that a robbery is taking place. As I haven't seen many polite robberies, I'd take that as a threat.
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What if he had calmly just walked around the counter to take something, justifiable to kill for that?
Again, wearing a mask and trying to go behind the counter is still a universal sign of a robbery. And calm or not the clerk is still being backed into a corner by someone who obviously has ill intentions. I'd take that as a threat too.
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Think what you want. Some of us have to analyze these situations within the framework of the laws as they exist, not how we want them to be.
There's usually no time to analyze the situation. The robber has already had time to go over in their head what they're going to do, what they want to accomplish, etc. The clerk goes from normal to life or death in a flash. Disadvantaged from the start.
The average man or woman is not trained in self defense or combat. To the vast majority (i.e. a reasonable person), self defense is a fight or flight response.
It's asking a normal person to process the actions of an abnormal person and make a decision that may or may not be their last.
Maybe they won't attack you.
Gas station clerk shot in the face without warning, police say
Or maybe they'll shoot you in the face.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:19 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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Think what you want. Some of us have to analyze these situations within the framework of the laws as they exist, not how we want them to be. Others of us have to think through these scenarios because we want to be sure we return home to our families every night but also don’t want to unnecessarily kill someone and risk being taken away from our families and prosecuted for murder.
We found another potential soros DA
Posted on 8/7/22 at 8:20 am to DanW1
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Or maybe they'll shoot you in the face.
Dumbass Jack would definitely end up getting shot in the face….
But only AFTER he finished performing fellatio on the robber.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:55 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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I’m all for thieves finding out, but you have to at least see the fine edge that the store clerk has to walk to defend himself. The video doesn’t show the stabbee doing anything aggressive or violent, just trying to steal something. Regardless what we think the law should be, the law does not generally recognize a justifiable homicide merely to prevent theft of property.
The “fine edge” has been created by leftist/liberal prosecutors twisting the law to put an unreasonable burden on victims of crime. It is perfectly reasonable to assume someone robbing you would use force against you. Putting the burden on the VICTIM to wait and assess if the criminal is going to show restraint is not the intent. Asking a victim to make that level of decision when the CRIMINAL has started committing a crime is asinine and is the left’s manipulation of the law to protect the criminal. No way would I convict this guy for anything.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:45 am to Jack Bauers HnK
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But, yeah, ra ra, another thief is dead. FAFO
It’s surprising why we are being downvoted into oblivion
Really thought this board was the smartest of the bunch. Apparently FAFO trumps the actual law here. Asian guy better hope he has a friendly DA or he’s in some trouble.
Looking forward to revisiting this thread in a week or so
Posted on 8/7/22 at 10:49 am to idlewatcher
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Asian guy better hope he has a friendly DA or he’s in some trouble.
Please explain again why the owner is “in some trouble”?
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idlewatcher
Name fits.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:51 pm to Breauxsif
Everyone can sit there and say what he should have done or what they would have done but watching it on a video and being involved with it are two completely different things. The dude was scared and reacted. He was on the defensive and the perp was on the offensive. frick that guy. Ppl need to realize you can’t do whatever you want and despite all the slap on the wrists our Justice system likes to give out, real life has consequences.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 9:58 pm to Plx1776
Please let me be on the jury.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:10 pm to Bulldogblitz
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We found another potential soros DA
Baloney! That poster wrote nothing that implied he was in the Soros camp. In fact, he implied that he’d prefer the laws to be otherwise.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:12 pm to fisherscatfan
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The “fine edge” has been created by leftist/liberal prosecutors twisting the law to put an unreasonable burden on victims of crime.
I think the “fine edge” will magically disappear this time because the robber who got stabbed was white.
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:29 pm to idlewatcher
How quickly the clerk drew open that knife, closed the gap/distance between himself and the robber, and had four stabs into him is EXACTLY WHY he is justified into drawing his knife and putting four stabs into him
Once he jumped the counter, he was backed into a corner and the robber could have easily closed the gap and had knife or gun on him. The speed at which he made his defense is his greatest defense. Jumping a counter while wearing a ski mask and rolling up with a posse all warring the same, and we really expect citizens to have to sit back and wait to be actually physically attacked before defending themselves? Absurd
Once he jumped the counter, he was backed into a corner and the robber could have easily closed the gap and had knife or gun on him. The speed at which he made his defense is his greatest defense. Jumping a counter while wearing a ski mask and rolling up with a posse all warring the same, and we really expect citizens to have to sit back and wait to be actually physically attacked before defending themselves? Absurd
This post was edited on 8/7/22 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 8/7/22 at 11:38 pm to Jack Bauers HnK
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The video doesn’t show the stabbee doing anything aggressive or violent
Engaged in an active robbery with accomplices and then jumping across a counter after the clerk asked you to leave and offered to let you take the money with you is definitely at minimum aggressive
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