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re: Asian kid with 4.42GPA and 1590 on SAT denied by 16 colleges, Google hires him

Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:32 am to
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:32 am to
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But Wisconsin and Washington? I'm not disputing they're good schools but are they really the type to turn away numbers like that?


Also in the McDonald book: Second tier colleges are also dismissing high test scores because of grant applications to their medical departments. You won't get any money unless your goal is to 'achieve equity in our health delivery system.'
You must commit to the fact that all life expectancy differences in the U.S. are caused by racism. Several med profs have written that black health problems are greater due to obesity levels and noncompliance with their physician's recommended treatment. Those profs were all fired and the medical journals they wrote in issued public apologies and assurances that no such articles will ever be printed again.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:36 am to
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Exactly, there has to be something in his application that is dinging him.


Yes, of course. And I'm totally confident that the affirmative action candidates that were admitted had way, way better "social" scores.

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There is something else there that is holding him back though.



What was holding him back was the color of his skin ( not dark enough) and the shape of his eyes.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22198 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 10:39 am to
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1590 is also not that impressive of an SAT score at elite colleges



On a 1600 scale?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89790 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:10 am to
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On a 1600 scale?


Yeah, the 99th percentile is around 1550 over the past few years, so this kid was probably a 99.7 to 99.9, but "not impressive".
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:31 am to
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Yeah, the 99th percentile is around 1550 over the past few years, so this kid was probably a 99.7 to 99.9, but "not impressive"


I mean having a 1590 and a 4.4 GPA isn't going to get you into an elite school by itself.

I got a 35 on the ACT and had a perfect GPA.

I was still rejected from every Ivy + Stanford because I hadn't exactly done any extracurriculars.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 11:32 am
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
49017 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:32 am to
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I mean having a 1590 isn't going to get you into an elite school.


what? The median at Harvard is 1530.

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hadn't exactly done any extracurriculars.


Eta: Ah. I see what you’re saying.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 11:35 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:36 am to
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I mean having a 1590 and a 4.4 GPA isn't going to get you into an elite school by itself.



That wasn't the point being responded to. MAADFACTS said that the 1590 wasn't impressive and he was full of shite to say so.
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:42 am to
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On a 1600 scale?


It’s a great score for most colleges, but if you aren’t an athlete and your dad isn’t a donor, I’m sorry to tell you that all elite colleges get applications from kids with SAT scores like that. I had a 4.2 and a 1400 and my guidance counselor laughed when I said I wanted to go to UVA as an out of state student and said “you might as well try to get into Harvard”, and that was in 2002. It’s gotten a lot more competitive
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:43 am to
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1590 is also not that impressive of an SAT score at elite colleges


There are only around 20,000 kids who score 1590+ in the entire country. It is a pretty impressive achievement.

Beats out at least 75% of these top schools.

Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1280 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:44 am to
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There are only around 20,000 kids who score 1590+ in the entire country. It is a pretty impressive achievement. Beats out at least 75% of these top schools.


You might want to hold for athletes, affirmative action cases that are still present, and children of alumni and massive donors
Posted by VOR
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:47 am to
I’m gonna need a few more facts about this story.
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:48 am to
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what? The median at Harvard is 1530.


Harvard gets lots of applicants who score higher than the median and were rejected.

LINK

See the above link from the lawsuit - out of 29,602 domestic applicants to Harvard, around 11,000 got above a 750 on the SAT Math section and 9000 got above a 750 on the Verbal section. Assume some people got a high score on one and not the other but there's going to be some correlation between high achievers on one part and the other - that's still roughly 7000 people who applied to Harvard who got above a 1500 on the SAT.

If you look at the lawsuit data, the acceptance rate for someone with a 1590 was 30%. The link is somewhere in the data set I've linked - I'm being lazy but I can find it somewhere. It's much higher than the 4% general acceptance rate but 70% of applicants who got a 1590 were rejected.

The median doesn't mean anything - Harvard accepts lots of kids who score under 1590 because they have excellent extracurriculars. And they reject lots of kids who get 1590 because they have no extracurriculars like me.

Getting a high ACT/SAT score and high GPA isn't enough to get one into Harvard. As I said, I got a high GPA and a high ACT score - I was pretty much rejected from all the ivies.

This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by DarthRebel
Tier Five is Alive
Member since Feb 2013
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Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:48 am to
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I was still rejected from every Ivy + Stanford because I hadn't exactly done any extracurriculars.


He started a company

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launching his own e-signing startup RabbitSign in sophomore year,

https://www.rabbitsign.com/

Should have been a "Community Organizer" instead
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22198 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:48 am to
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It’s a great score for most colleges,


It's a great score for any college. The average at MIT is 1535, at Harvard it's 1520. Do you not understand that you can't score higher than 1600?
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89790 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:51 am to
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He started a company


To reiterate what I said with my first post: College...would...be...a...waste...of...time...for...this...kid.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
22198 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 11:54 am to
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Getting a high ACT/SAT score and high GPA isn't enough to get one into Harvard


Who are you arguing with? Nobody's said that.

1. 1590 doesn't guarantee acceptance into Harvard.

2. 1590 isn't a great SAT score for an elite school.

Those are different claims. He made claim #2, and he's simply wrong.

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As I said, I got a high GPA and a high ACT score - I was pretty much rejected from all the ivies.

Maybe they tested your reading comprehension.
This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 11:57 am
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:00 pm to
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That wasn't the point being responded to. MAADFACTS said that the 1590 wasn't impressive and he was full of shite to say so.



I think compared to most people, it's very impressive.

But I don't think it'd impress an admissions officer at Harvard by itself. Being more generous, I think that's what MAADFACTS meant.

Someone usually gets into Harvard every year or so from my prep school. And they're usually very, very, very impressive if they're unhooked, non-legacy candidates - like winning debate competitions, science fairs and poetry contests.

The girl who got in this year from my school was insane - she'd won a national mock trials contest, a national poetry contest and performed her instrument in front of some pretty important people.

That's all I'm saying - I'm responding more broadly to the OP now. Getting a 1590 and being denied is nothing that extraordinary.


This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 12:04 pm
Posted by CAPEX
Member since Dec 2022
865 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:01 pm to
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Those are different claims. He made claim #2, and he's simply wrong.


The point I'm making is that it's far from impressive for an elite school. I think MAADFACTS was trying to put it into context of admissions which is my interpretation of his comment.

This post was edited on 10/16/23 at 12:05 pm
Posted by MAADFACTS
Member since Jul 2021
1280 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 12:20 pm to
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That wasn't the point being responded to. MAADFACTS said that the 1590 wasn't impressive and he was full of shite to say so.


Context is everything. A 1590 is obviously impressive. We are talking about getting into elite colleges, and a 1590 doesn’t do that, unless you’ve also published a novel or go to Choate or similar elite private high schools that routinely send half of their graduating class to the same elite college and have for a century
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
25329 posts
Posted on 10/16/23 at 1:36 pm to
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Would have a better education at LSU. All those other schools are water downed with Woke bullshite.




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