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re: Ashli Babbitt’s Husband Sues D.C. Over Failure to Identify Officer Who Killed His Wife
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:34 pm to Pettifogger
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:34 pm to Pettifogger
quote:You are going to have to produce that image. She almost certainly couldn't see the murderous POS skulking in an alcove to her far left, nor did she see him until he killed her. Other guards were 40ft or more down the corridor.
armed guards are standing and pointing guns at her
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Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:35 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
a secured area where armed guards are standing and pointing guns at her
Not in the video I saw. Should be easy for you to provide screen shots of this though.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:39 pm to Pettifogger
quote:You've seen different video than I have. The reason "no one can discern" commands issued by officers, if any were, is because sound quality in the echoing stairwell was so bad. But if you can single Babbitt out in the cacophony, excellent work.
She's screaming on video for like 90 seconds before the incident,
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:40 pm to NC_Tigah
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You are going to have to produce that image. She almost certainly couldn't see the murderous POS skulking in an alcove to her far left, nor did she see him until he killed her. Other guards were 40ft or more down the corridor.
I mean, I can see them 40 feet down the corridor in the video, can you not?
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:41 pm to Pettifogger
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I mean, I can see them 40 feet down the corridor in the video, can you not?
Post some screen shots then.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:46 pm to MightyYat
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What we see on video is 4 Capitol officers guarding those doors inexplicably just walk off nonchalantly for no reason allowing those people to do whatever they wanted. If the lobby is such a holy grail of safety that it requires shooting an unarmed woman, then you'd think those 4 officers would've tried a little harder.
Fair, I agree that is weird
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Not to mention, how come no one really talks about the 2 guys that lifted Babbitt up to put her through the window?
I can't tell what's happening there but that's probably what they're doing
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I don't know man. I'm not one of those conspiracy loons but there sure were some weird shite that happened that day.
Keep in mind my take has generally been that it's not a justified shoot
I just don't have as much sympathy as some of these guys do considering the choices she made that day. And the reality is that if this was the Louisiana Capitol and the BLM version of Babbitt and some friends were beating down the doors and breaking out the glass and crawling through the windows to get into a locked hallway with police in it, nobody here would say shite about this shooting. Maybe they should, and maybe that's hypocritical, but I think we all know it's true.
It'd be "play stupid games" and "why is it so hard to comply". And someone will say "I didn't hear any command" - ok - I think the absence of an audible command is negated by the locked doors to federal property you're busting down, but maybe that's just me.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:48 pm to LNCHBOX
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Post some screen shots then.
No. I asked you a question, give me an answer if you're trying to engage me. If you don't see the black figures down the hall, you can say so. You won't, because you do see them.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:49 pm to Pettifogger
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And the reality is that if this was the Louisiana Capitol and the BLM version of Babbitt and some friends were beating down the doors and breaking out the glass and crawling through the windows to get into a locked hallway with police in it, nobody here would say shite about this shooting.
This is unsubstantiated bullshite that you will use to justify hypocrisy. Most posters have zero issue calling out bad shoots.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:49 pm to Pettifogger
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No. I asked you a question, give me an answer if you're trying to engage me.
So we just believe your way is the right one just because you said it
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You won't, because you do see them.
Show me.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:50 pm to LNCHBOX
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This is unsubstantiated bullshite that you will use to justify hypocrisy. Most posters have zero issue calling out bad shoots.
Nah, you're lying to yourself. And for no good reason. If police blasted some dude trying to kick in a door to the Portland ICE facility you wouldn't say shite and neither would I.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:51 pm to Pettifogger
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Nah, you're lying to yourself. And for no good reason
You made something up to justify your take in this thread. Which one of us is lying?
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If police blasted some dude trying to kick in a door to the Portland ICE facility you wouldn't say shite and neither would I.
So now she's kicking in a door too
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:52 pm to LNCHBOX
quote:
quote:
No. I asked you a question, give me an answer if you're trying to engage me.
So we just believe your way is the right one just because you said it
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You won't, because you do see them.
Show me.
Oh ok, let's try
"I'm just supposed to believe your bullshite account just because you say it? Show me the empty hallway and I'll tell you whether I've changed my mind"
Screenshots should be easy
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:52 pm to Pettifogger
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Oh ok, let's try
"I'm just supposed to believe your bullshite account just because you say it? Show me the empty hallway and I'll tell you whether I've changed my mind"
Screenshots should be easy
You are the guy that made the claim there were many armed officers with guns pointed. back up your claim
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:54 pm to LNCHBOX
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You are the guy that made the claim there were many armed officers with guns pointed. back up your claim
Sure
She was killed by a gunshot of one of the officers who had a gun aimed at her
Man, easy work today. "BUT BUT SHE DIDN'T SEE HIM" says the guy speculating wildly to support a ridiculous argument
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:57 pm to Pettifogger
quote:
Sure
She was killed by a gunshot of the only officer who had a gun aimed at her
FIFY
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Man, easy work today. "BUT BUT SHE DIDN'T SEE HIM" says the guy speculating wildly to support a ridiculous argument
You don't even keep up with your own bullshite claims
Easy work indeed. Also, given the angles it is highly unlikely she saw him. She probably should have, but that's a different story. Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:59 pm to LNCHBOX
You
Knew it was coming.
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Also, given the angles it is highly unlikely she saw him. She probably should have, but that's a different story.
Knew it was coming.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 3:59 pm to Pettifogger
And since you are so busy to be bothered to post screen shots
No one except for the shooter had their guns out.
No one except for the shooter had their guns out.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:00 pm to Pettifogger
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Knew it was coming.
SO you're just going to ignore that you said multiple officers and think you won something here
And explain to me how you are certain that her view of that officer wasn't obstructed.
This post was edited on 6/10/21 at 4:06 pm
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:02 pm to Pettifogger
quote:With guns drawn?
I mean, I can see them 40 feet down the corridor in the video, can you not?
Nope.
Glass in the portal she entered?
Nope.
Posted on 6/10/21 at 4:04 pm to NC_Tigah
The officer in the back obviously had his weapon drawn
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