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re: As of Today, Russia has lost 62% of the territory it captured during this war.

Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:59 pm to
Posted by JayDeerTay84
Texas
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 3:59 pm to
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Ask yourself why they are dead and who is pulling the trigger. Should they just roll over and accept their new Russian overlords?


They are dead because their government was taking bribes from both sides and Russia finally called them on it.
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:00 pm to
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Because we were attacked in Pearl Harbor, which forced us to join the war, though we were shipping supplies beforehand.



It forced us to go to war against Japan. Hitlers idiotic move declaring war on the US shortly after eroded remaining isolationist tendencies towards Europe afterwards. If it weren’t for Chamberlain’s appeasement towards Hitler when he invaded his first sovereign nations who knows how history would have turned out. Just like this board seems to take with Putin, or even worse many are downright cheerleading him.
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:03 pm to
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Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44312 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:06 pm to
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If it weren’t for Chamberlain’s appeasement towards Hitler when he invaded his first sovereign nations who knows how history would have turned out. Just like this board seems to take with Putin


Are you seriously equating the two?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:06 pm to
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Ask yourself why they are dead


1) Coup backed by us, we installed a puppet

2) 3-5 million Ukrainian's not allowed to vote in the Donbas region.

You'd be pissed too.


Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:08 pm to
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It forced us to go to war against Japan. Hitlers idiotic move declaring war on the US shortly


Yet prior to war, we didn't send billions to anyone.

This is different, because we are partially culpable. Glad to see you warhawks back again.

Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:16 pm to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:26 pm to
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but we were shipping military supplies to the UK earlier,


Lend Lease? lol... We sent GB shite over 6 years, most after we entered the war.

We also traded destroyers for military bases in the Caribbean.

What we are doing for Ukraine is unprecedented.

Posted by POTUS2024
Member since Nov 2022
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:28 pm to
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True, there are a lot of parallels between Hitler and Putin in those early conquests.


What are they?
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:29 pm to
@RogerTheShrubber

Are your history books written in crayon?
Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:31 pm to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:32 pm to
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“we did it but not as much as we did later in the war?


Its no argument. What we have done for Ukraine is unprecedented.

And I'm not just talking about the coup, or the puppet we installed.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19141 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:34 pm to
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2. If you really believe that there are ethnic Russians in eastern Ukraine then you need a psychiatric evaluation.

Who told you there are not any in eastern Ukraine?

Ethnic Russians all over the place.
This post was edited on 12/26/22 at 7:56 pm
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:34 pm to
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What’s your argument, “we did it but not as much as we did later in the war?” Yeah, and we sent troops later and hundreds of thousands of them died.


The argument is asinine. Nearly $700 billion(today's money) worth of supplies were sent to allies during WWII.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:35 pm to
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Nearly $700 billion(today's money) worth of supplies were sent to allies during WWII.



Overwhelmingly, most was after we declared war on Japan.

What we did for Ukraine is unpresented.
Posted by bigblake
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:38 pm to
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Posted by Bunk Moreland
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:39 pm to
Congrats on the Neville Chamberlain/appeasement bingo.

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Caitlin Johnstone
@caitoz
For Warmongers It's Always 1938
Posted by SlimTigerSlap
Member since Apr 2022
4313 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:43 pm to
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Overwhelmingly, most was after we declared war on Japan.

What we did for Ukraine is unpresented

Before the US entered the war, it provided the equivalent of $180 billion to the Soviet Union. I'm sure you know many other countries also received aid. Unprecedented is totally false.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:50 pm to
No you idiot. We suppled 180b over the course of the lend lease program.

Jesus christ...

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Totaling $11.3 billion, or $180 billion in today’s currency, the Lend-Lease Act of the United States supplied needed goods to the Soviet Union from 1941 to 1945 in support of what Stalin described to Roosevelt as the “enormous and difficult fight against the common enemy — bloodthirsty Hitlerism.”

Posted by bigblake
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Posted on 12/26/22 at 4:57 pm to
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