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re: As Israel Ramps Up Rhetoric Against Turkey, US Moves to Remove Sanctions

Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
6477 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:02 pm to
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Founding of Israeli State: 1948

After over a dozen years of failed dual state attempts. European Jews were migrating there, in mass, since the 1920's. The CT had to have started prior to the mass migration.
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Within two years of their founding they had a working reactor at Dimona.

We did that. Same as we did when Iran was under the Shah.
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How does a nation without any help get a nuclear reactor within two years of its founding and have confirmed nukes within 15 years

It is pretty well documented that they stole the material from us and even after we found out, did nothing about it.
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Someone wanted them to have nukes immediately and made it happen.

Was it a NWO conspiracy? I have no idea, it’s not my theory.

The Greater Israel Project has been in the works since before the founding of Israel. It was the whole basis for Zionism and can be seen as an EOTW action. Many do believe the Zionists are behind NWO as well.

Bottom line, I don't know. I am not versed in CTs. I do find many of them interesting, but never get more than just scratching the surface of them.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
7676 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:06 pm to
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Definitely a foe under Erdogan


Wut.

Turkey is literally a friend under NATO. You don't have to be happy about it - I sure as hell am not, but they're in the NATO club. The Israelis are antagozing a legitimate ally.
Posted by LemmyLives
Texas
Member since Mar 2019
16905 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:09 pm to
Turkey isn't a friend. They buy Russian SAM systems while begging for F-35s. They used Apaches against civilians in 2016, and turned the Hagia Sophia back into a mosque. Screw Erdogan.

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3 million Turkish citizens were tried for terrorism between 2016 and 2024
511,000 Gulen followers detained for terror charges between 2016 and 2019 only.
Posted by olehickory1767
Member since Dec 2024
120 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 4:16 pm to
Maybe Trump is wising up to ole Bibi. Last time I checked, Erdogan hasn’t appear before our Congress clamoring for war in the Middle East. What say ye Israeli bros?
Posted by f4ifrank
Member since Oct 2012
180 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:05 pm to
It’s not though!! Israel will pay a price for killing their savior but the Father will save them in the end. Sit back and watch.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
24188 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 5:10 pm to
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The CT had to have started prior to the mass migration.

False conclusion. There's no reason it had to have started when Jews started moving there.
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We did that. Same as we did when Iran was under the Shah.

We did not openly give Israel a nuclear program. It was not at all part of stated policy.

If we did in fact give them a nuclear program the question remains: why?
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It is pretty well documented that they stole the material from us and even after we found out, did nothing about it.

And the question would be why did we do nothing about it?

Did it somehow benefit us? I would argue no.

So why did we refuse to do anything?

On who's orders?

Who benefitted?
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The Greater Israel Project has been in the works since before the founding of Israel. It was the whole basis for Zionism and can be seen as an EOTW action. Many do believe the Zionists are behind NWO as well.

If you accept the existence of the "NWO", the same people who are involved with that are said to be the ones who made the modern Israeli state happen after centuries of floundering.

But if you look at the lore around the NWO its pretty clear they arent Jewish in their beliefs.

So why setup Israel as a modern state if you aren't Jewish and dont care about Jews?
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
24383 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:09 pm to
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That’s messed up! We need to continue helping Israel fight their wars. They are our greatest ally


Israel is a better ally than Turkey. 99% of Turkey's population is mooslum.
No how, no way, never ever, should the US trust any mooslum controlled country. Mooslums are like a dog with a bad temperament, ya never know when they will turn on you.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
39517 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:14 pm to
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It’s not though!! Israel will pay a price for killing their savior but the Father will save them in the end. Sit back and watch.


So you're saying that even though the bible calls them the synagogue of Satan that we should align with them anyways? This makes no sense.
Posted by Indefatigable
Member since Jan 2019
38043 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:15 pm to
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So you're saying that even though the bible calls them the synagogue of Satan that we should align with them anyways? This makes no sense.

Ideally the Bible wouldn’t impact anyone’s foreign relations opinions considering at best it’s 1600 or so years behind in that department.
Posted by BoarEd
The Hills
Member since Oct 2015
39517 posts
Posted on 7/7/26 at 6:18 pm to
This is a given. And anyone whose opinions of what should happen regarding foreign relations is based on the bible is obviously a child.
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