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re: As a practicing Christian, which is worse?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:02 am to Cheese Grits
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:02 am to Cheese Grits
Both are equally unacceptable in light of God's ideal of marriage, but either is forgivable if the sinner confesses his sin, and promises to sin no more
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:09 am to FooManChoo
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Can you point to anywhere in the Bible where David and Jonathan have been said to engage in lustful thoughts towards one another or engaged in homosexual sex?
Can you point to the passage that explicitly said they didn’t?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:09 am to Cheese Grits
False: DJT never messed with Daniels and sued her for claiming this. He won $300k over it.
Take your false equivalency away from here.
Take your false equivalency away from here.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:10 am to The Maj
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No such thing as "worse" when it comes to sin
Wrong. All sins are equally bad, but can be forgiven, save one:
In Mark 3:29 Jesus says that “whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin."
So there is one sin that cannot be forgiven--and by definition, it is WORSE.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 11:28 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:47 am to deeprig9
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The constant reference to Stormy as a "porn star" is making me angry. That bitch was never a porn star. She was a stripper and a whore, who appeared in a couple videos that showed up online along side millions of others, and nobody ever heard of her before she began extorting Trump for money. Well, when she was posting on Tigerdroppings before all this, people here heard of her. But she wasn't a porn star. Nowhere near attractive enough.
show me where the 'porn star' doll hurt you.
/sarcasm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:51 am to Cheese Grits
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Married man gets a BJ from an intern OR Married man has some sort of sex with a porn star
Can we factor in the main issue about this which was perjuring oneself in court after proof was there the incident actually occurred?
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 11:52 am
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:01 pm to tarzana
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Wrong. All sins are equally bad, but can be forgiven, save one:
While I think your post has you somewhat on the right path…a lot of folks botch this take on sin.
Not only as you pointed out that there is an “unpardonable sin”, there is also sin unto death and other types of pervasive sins that are viewed in much more serious terms by God.
After all, the Bible says God is a just God and justice demands the punishment fit the crime so to say. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying sins, all sins, aren’t worthy of punishment and are wrong but God does not view all sin on the same level which is common sense really. If a guy goes to a convenience store and steals a loaf of bread to feed his family that’s hungry, it is much more different in our eyes and God’s eyes, if a guy walks into a convenience store to rob it and shot/kill the clerk. Both wrong? Yes. Both the same on how it is viewed/handled? Absolutely not. By God nor man.
Many folks conflate the two issues though…sin is wrong, yes all sin…but the type of sin and level of severity is absolutely not the same nor is it treated the same throughout the Bible for consistency’s sake.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:35 pm to SeeeeK
Yea thats hell for u too buddy
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:46 pm to Cheese Grits
None of us are any better.
According to God's standards, entertaining thoughts of sex with someone other than your spouse is as sinful as an actual physical encounter; a constant reminder than none of us are worthy of salvation, but we are continually in need of His grace.
According to God's standards, entertaining thoughts of sex with someone other than your spouse is as sinful as an actual physical encounter; a constant reminder than none of us are worthy of salvation, but we are continually in need of His grace.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:47 pm to Esquire
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Can you point to anywhere in the Bible where David and Jonathan have been said to engage in lustful thoughts towards one another or engaged in homosexual sex?
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Can you point to the passage that explicitly said they didn’t?
It isn't required to prove a negative.
You made the veiled claim that there was some "sinful" nature or action between David and Jonathon.
That puts the burden on you to show it.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:07 pm to Loserman
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It isn't required to prove a negative.
It’s not required to prove anything on the poliboard
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:13 pm to Esquire
quote:Required? No. Necessary to maintain intellectual honesty? Yeah.
It’s not required to prove anything on the poliboard
If you're going to insinuate a homosexual lifestyle by David and Jonathan, the decent thing to do is provide a reason for it.
Not only is there no positive evidence to show that there was a homosexual relationship between the two, the context of the whole of Scripture would be against it. The only way to believe they were homosexuals is to interpret it anachronistically, taking modern sexual and cultural mores and placing them into a different culture in history.
If you want them to be homosexuals or if you really really wish they were homosexuals, then just say so, but to imply that they were is simply to wishcast or project.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:18 pm to deeprig9
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The constant reference to Stormy as a "porn star" is making me angry. That bitch was never a porn star. She was a stripper and a whore, who appeared in a couple videos that showed up online along side millions of others, and nobody ever heard of her before she began extorting Trump for money. Well, when she was posting on Tigerdroppings before all this, people here heard of her. But she wasn't a porn star. Nowhere near attractive enough.
One of her scenes was in The 40 Year Old Virgin, which grossed a bajillion dollars at the box office. She was well known and a "pornstar".
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:21 pm to Cheese Grits
I'll email God and check, but I'm not really equipped to say which one is worse. We all have sinned. The only thing that I think I know is that blasphemy and murder are at the top of the list if all sins are not equal.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:24 pm to Esquire
quote:Not explicitly, no, but that's not how you prove a point. That's an argument from silence, which doesn't carry as much weight as other arguments that can be made to the contrary.
Can you point to the passage that explicitly said they didn’t?
I will say, though, that David was condemned and punished for his heterosexual adultery with Bathsheba and the subsequent murder of her husband. It would be quite inconsistent to punish David for heterosexual adultery but not for homosexual adultery. Considering David confessed his sins and none of them included homosexuality, I think this argument from silence is superior to your own and favors that David and Jonathan were more like close blood brothers who loved each other like best friends, rather than homosexual lovers.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:26 pm to Cheese Grits
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Married man gets a BJ from an intern
OR
Married man has some sort of sex with a porn star
Which is worse: claiming to be a Christian, then having a sexual affair, while married, with an employee, 22, when you're 49, for 18 months, and oh, by the way, you're the POTUS and could be subject to being blackmailed, then perjuring yourself over it and lying to the American people on TV;
or
Supposedly (denied by all parties) cheating on your new third wife with a one-night-stand with effectively a hooker (sorry if you're reading this, Stormy), a 10-year veteran of the sex industry at 27, when you're 60, and later claiming to be a Christian?
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:15 pm to Dirtyboro
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There’s a better way to say there’s a better way there best
Correct: There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death and destruction.
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:33 pm to VolcanicTiger
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Supposedly (denied by all parties) cheating on your new third wife
Having a third wife after a no-fault divorce is adultery itself. The affair with Stormy would be double adultery.
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:56 pm to Perfect Circle
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According to God's standards, entertaining thoughts of sex with someone other than your spouse is as sinful as an actual physical encounter
The Jimmy Carter point
Posted on 3/25/23 at 7:02 pm to SeeeeK
heard a stat the other day
a man can see more naked women and sex in 10 minutes on the internet than a man pre-computer saw in a lifetime
a man can see more naked women and sex in 10 minutes on the internet than a man pre-computer saw in a lifetime
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