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re: As a practicing Christian, which is worse?

Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:02 am to
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:02 am to
Both are equally unacceptable in light of God's ideal of marriage, but either is forgivable if the sinner confesses his sin, and promises to sin no more
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:09 am to
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Can you point to anywhere in the Bible where David and Jonathan have been said to engage in lustful thoughts towards one another or engaged in homosexual sex?


Can you point to the passage that explicitly said they didn’t?
Posted by DawgRebelinAL
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Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:09 am to
False: DJT never messed with Daniels and sued her for claiming this. He won $300k over it.

Take your false equivalency away from here.
Posted by tarzana
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:10 am to
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No such thing as "worse" when it comes to sin

Wrong. All sins are equally bad, but can be forgiven, save one:

In Mark 3:29 Jesus says that “whoever blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will never be forgiven; they are guilty of an eternal sin."

So there is one sin that cannot be forgiven--and by definition, it is WORSE.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 11:28 am
Posted by captainFid
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:47 am to
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The constant reference to Stormy as a "porn star" is making me angry. That bitch was never a porn star. She was a stripper and a whore, who appeared in a couple videos that showed up online along side millions of others, and nobody ever heard of her before she began extorting Trump for money. Well, when she was posting on Tigerdroppings before all this, people here heard of her. But she wasn't a porn star. Nowhere near attractive enough.


show me where the 'porn star' doll hurt you.




/sarcasm
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
20193 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 11:51 am to
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Married man gets a BJ from an intern OR Married man has some sort of sex with a porn star


Can we factor in the main issue about this which was perjuring oneself in court after proof was there the incident actually occurred?
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 11:52 am
Posted by Crimson1st
Birmingham, AL
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:01 pm to
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Wrong. All sins are equally bad, but can be forgiven, save one:


While I think your post has you somewhat on the right path…a lot of folks botch this take on sin.

Not only as you pointed out that there is an “unpardonable sin”, there is also sin unto death and other types of pervasive sins that are viewed in much more serious terms by God.

After all, the Bible says God is a just God and justice demands the punishment fit the crime so to say. And don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying sins, all sins, aren’t worthy of punishment and are wrong but God does not view all sin on the same level which is common sense really. If a guy goes to a convenience store and steals a loaf of bread to feed his family that’s hungry, it is much more different in our eyes and God’s eyes, if a guy walks into a convenience store to rob it and shot/kill the clerk. Both wrong? Yes. Both the same on how it is viewed/handled? Absolutely not. By God nor man.

Many folks conflate the two issues though…sin is wrong, yes all sin…but the type of sin and level of severity is absolutely not the same nor is it treated the same throughout the Bible for consistency’s sake.
This post was edited on 3/23/23 at 12:17 pm
Posted by NotPrepared
Member since Jun 2020
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:35 pm to
Yea thats hell for u too buddy
Posted by Perfect Circle
S W Alabama
Member since Sep 2017
6835 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:46 pm to
None of us are any better.
According to God's standards, entertaining thoughts of sex with someone other than your spouse is as sinful as an actual physical encounter; a constant reminder than none of us are worthy of salvation, but we are continually in need of His grace.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Can you point to anywhere in the Bible where David and Jonathan have been said to engage in lustful thoughts towards one another or engaged in homosexual sex?


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Can you point to the passage that explicitly said they didn’t?


It isn't required to prove a negative.

You made the veiled claim that there was some "sinful" nature or action between David and Jonathon.

That puts the burden on you to show it.

Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 1:07 pm to
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It isn't required to prove a negative.


It’s not required to prove anything on the poliboard
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:13 pm to
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It’s not required to prove anything on the poliboard
Required? No. Necessary to maintain intellectual honesty? Yeah.

If you're going to insinuate a homosexual lifestyle by David and Jonathan, the decent thing to do is provide a reason for it.

Not only is there no positive evidence to show that there was a homosexual relationship between the two, the context of the whole of Scripture would be against it. The only way to believe they were homosexuals is to interpret it anachronistically, taking modern sexual and cultural mores and placing them into a different culture in history.

If you want them to be homosexuals or if you really really wish they were homosexuals, then just say so, but to imply that they were is simply to wishcast or project.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
115440 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:18 pm to
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The constant reference to Stormy as a "porn star" is making me angry. That bitch was never a porn star. She was a stripper and a whore, who appeared in a couple videos that showed up online along side millions of others, and nobody ever heard of her before she began extorting Trump for money. Well, when she was posting on Tigerdroppings before all this, people here heard of her. But she wasn't a porn star. Nowhere near attractive enough.




One of her scenes was in The 40 Year Old Virgin, which grossed a bajillion dollars at the box office. She was well known and a "pornstar".
Posted by LSUSkip
Central, LA
Member since Jul 2012
17527 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:21 pm to
I'll email God and check, but I'm not really equipped to say which one is worse. We all have sinned. The only thing that I think I know is that blasphemy and murder are at the top of the list if all sins are not equal.
Posted by FooManChoo
Member since Dec 2012
41644 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:24 pm to
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Can you point to the passage that explicitly said they didn’t?
Not explicitly, no, but that's not how you prove a point. That's an argument from silence, which doesn't carry as much weight as other arguments that can be made to the contrary.

I will say, though, that David was condemned and punished for his heterosexual adultery with Bathsheba and the subsequent murder of her husband. It would be quite inconsistent to punish David for heterosexual adultery but not for homosexual adultery. Considering David confessed his sins and none of them included homosexuality, I think this argument from silence is superior to your own and favors that David and Jonathan were more like close blood brothers who loved each other like best friends, rather than homosexual lovers.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 2:26 pm to
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Married man gets a BJ from an intern

OR

Married man has some sort of sex with a porn star

Which is worse: claiming to be a Christian, then having a sexual affair, while married, with an employee, 22, when you're 49, for 18 months, and oh, by the way, you're the POTUS and could be subject to being blackmailed, then perjuring yourself over it and lying to the American people on TV;

or

Supposedly (denied by all parties) cheating on your new third wife with a one-night-stand with effectively a hooker (sorry if you're reading this, Stormy), a 10-year veteran of the sex industry at 27, when you're 60, and later claiming to be a Christian?
Posted by LSUbest
Coastal Plain
Member since Aug 2007
10873 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:15 pm to
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There’s a better way to say there’s a better way there best


Correct: There is a way that seems right to a man, but the end thereof is death and destruction.
Posted by Esquire
Chiraq
Member since Apr 2014
11570 posts
Posted on 3/23/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Supposedly (denied by all parties) cheating on your new third wife


Having a third wife after a no-fault divorce is adultery itself. The affair with Stormy would be double adultery.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 6:56 pm to
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According to God's standards, entertaining thoughts of sex with someone other than your spouse is as sinful as an actual physical encounter


The Jimmy Carter point
Posted by JJJimmyJimJames
Southern States
Member since May 2020
18496 posts
Posted on 3/25/23 at 7:02 pm to
heard a stat the other day

a man can see more naked women and sex in 10 minutes on the internet than a man pre-computer saw in a lifetime
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